Worst US State

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Mr. Fresh,

The funny thing is this....if you or I had said, "I don't like Detroit because it's filled with all of those crazy MUSLIMS" can you imagine the reaction of the Left Wingers?

It's OK for them to make fun of Christian-based religions and call them all sorts of names, but they enforce political correctness in all other areas.

Hypocrisy 101...

Amazingly, you are completely right.  I just read something where a City Council in South Carolina can't open with a prayer mentioning Jesus, yet I bet they could do the same mentioning Allah.

Yep. In Palm Beach, the city council refused to allow Christians to put up a nativity scene at their place of business, yet the CITY ITSELF had expressions of the Jewish and Islamic faith specifically placed on city property!!!

You Christians have enough Churches everywhere, you don't need a frickin nativity scene.  

So much for freedom, huh?

Oh, you can have it, but you don't need it.  You flaunt yourselves enough.  

[??????????]

Mr. Fresh,

The funny thing is this....if you or I had said, "I don't like Detroit because it's filled with all of those crazy MUSLIMS" can you imagine the reaction of the Left Wingers?

It's OK for them to make fun of Christian-based religions and call them all sorts of names, but they enforce political correctness in all other areas.

Hypocrisy 101...

Amazingly, you are completely right.  I just read something where a City Council in South Carolina can't open with a prayer mentioning Jesus, yet I bet they could do the same mentioning Allah.

Yep. In Palm Beach, the city council refused to allow Christians to put up a nativity scene at their place of business, yet the CITY ITSELF had expressions of the Jewish and Islamic faith specifically placed on city property!!!

You Christians have enough Churches everywhere, you don't need a frickin nativity scene.  

So much for freedom, huh?

Oh, you can have it, but you don't need it.  You flaunt yourselves enough.  

And out comes the truth of the Democratic party.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Mr. Fresh,

The funny thing is this....if you or I had said, "I don't like Detroit because it's filled with all of those crazy MUSLIMS" can you imagine the reaction of the Left Wingers?

It's OK for them to make fun of Christian-based religions and call them all sorts of names, but they enforce political correctness in all other areas.

Hypocrisy 101...

Amazingly, you are completely right.  I just read something where a City Council in South Carolina can't open with a prayer mentioning Jesus, yet I bet they could do the same mentioning Allah.

Yep. In Palm Beach, the city council refused to allow Christians to put up a nativity scene at their place of business, yet the CITY ITSELF had expressions of the Jewish and Islamic faith specifically placed on city property!!!

You Christians have enough Churches everywhere, you don't need a frickin nativity scene.  

So much for freedom, huh?

Oh, you can have it, but you don't need it.  You flaunt yourselves enough.  

And out comes the truth of the Democratic party.

What did I just say.  I believe people can do what they want, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to have an opinion about it, and I'm personally very outspoken.  I'm wasn't talking about the democratic party.  

[elcorazon]

There's no way I'm reading this whole thread...   Anybody want to sum it up for me?

Some people don't like some states while other people don't like other states. Some people didn't read the question and started posting about cities. Others who didn't read the question started listing several state they didn't like. I think that gets you up to date.

Thanks.  I'm sure glad I didn't bother reading it.

[ilikeverin]

Mr. Fresh,

The funny thing is this....if you or I had said, "I don't like Detroit because it's filled with all of those crazy MUSLIMS" can you imagine the reaction of the Left Wingers?

It's OK for them to make fun of Christian-based religions and call them all sorts of names, but they enforce political correctness in all other areas.

Hypocrisy 101...

Amazingly, you are completely right.  I just read something where a City Council in South Carolina can't open with a prayer mentioning Jesus, yet I bet they could do the same mentioning Allah.

Yep. In Palm Beach, the city council refused to allow Christians to put up a nativity scene at their place of business, yet the CITY ITSELF had expressions of the Jewish and Islamic faith specifically placed on city property!!!

You Christians have enough Churches everywhere, you don't need a frickin nativity scene.  

So much for freedom, huh?

Oh, you can have it, but you don't need it.  You flaunt yourselves enough.  

And out comes the truth of the Democratic party.

What did I just say.  I believe people can do what they want, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to have an opinion about it, and I'm personally very outspoken.  I'm wasn't talking about the democratic party.  

That's not flaunting, it's expressing our religion.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

[??????????]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

Their modern policies of the Democratic party try to latch people on to the government for economic benefits. Slavery was pretty close to that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

Their modern policies of the Democratic party try to latch people on to the government for economic benefits. Slavery was pretty close to that.

But 90% of blacks apparentely don't think so.

By the way, what about the 1968 election? Wallace was running because Humphrey was the Democrat most responsible for adding the Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform. And hence Wallace took more votes from Nixon, something most Republicans here admit. And then came Nixon's "Southern Strategy" to pick up annoyed segregationists.  Oh but wait, I'm talking to someone who says he would've voted for Wallace!

[??????????]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

Their modern policies of the Democratic party try to latch people on to the government for economic benefits. Slavery was pretty close to that.

But 90% of blacks apparentely don't think so.

By the way, what about the 1968 election? Wallace was running because Humphrey was the Democrat most responsible for adding the Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform. And hence Wallace took more votes from Nixon, something most Republicans here admit. And then came Nixon's "Southern Strategy" to pick up annoyed segregationists.  Oh but wait, I'm talking to someone who says he would've voted for Wallace!

Yes I would have voted for Wallace because I agree with his foreign policy stands and his ways to deal with hippie traitors.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Then why are you whining about the racism of the Democratic party which happened 140 years ago, especially since back then the Democrats were opposed to the man you hate most in American politics.

[??????????]

Then why are you whining about the racism of the Democratic party which happened 140 years ago, especially since back then the Democrats were opposed to the man you hate most in American politics.

The racism the participate in nowadays is economic racism and Affirmative Action racism. Dependence = Slavery.

[ilikeverin]

Then why are you whining about the racism of the Democratic party which happened 140 years ago, especially since back then the Democrats were opposed to the man you hate most in American politics.

The racism the participate in nowadays is economic racism and Affirmative Action racism. Dependence = Slavery.

Then it seems everyone here has been enslaved at some point in their lives: when they were kids.

Like Dan Quayle said:

I understand the importance of bondage between parent and child.

[Bono]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

Their modern policies of the Democratic party try to latch people on to the government for economic benefits. Slavery was pretty close to that.

But 90% of blacks apparentely don't think so.

By the way, what about the 1968 election? Wallace was running because Humphrey was the Democrat most responsible for adding the Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform. And hence Wallace took more votes from Nixon, something most Republicans here admit. And then came Nixon's "Southern Strategy" to pick up annoyed segregationists.  Oh but wait, I'm talking to someone who says he would've voted for Wallace!

Yes I would have voted for Wallace because I agree with his foreign policy stands and his ways to deal with hippie traitors.

Why hippie traitors? Because they wouldn't fight? Then why not quaker traitors? Or amish traitors? Or mennonite traitors? Or jehova's witnesses traitors?

If your calling them that for other reasons, pay no attention to my remarks.

P.S.--I very much deslike the hippie message myself

[??????????]

Of course we can look at history and see what Democrats have done for blacks compared to Republicans. We know which party has the nastier of the history and it doesn't start with a "R" either.

do you blame the current German government for the Holocaust? That makes as much sense as blaming the modern day Democratic party for slavery.

Their modern policies of the Democratic party try to latch people on to the government for economic benefits. Slavery was pretty close to that.

But 90% of blacks apparentely don't think so.

By the way, what about the 1968 election? Wallace was running because Humphrey was the Democrat most responsible for adding the Civil Rights plank to the Democratic platform. And hence Wallace took more votes from Nixon, something most Republicans here admit. And then came Nixon's "Southern Strategy" to pick up annoyed segregationists.  Oh but wait, I'm talking to someone who says he would've voted for Wallace!

Yes I would have voted for Wallace because I agree with his foreign policy stands and his ways to deal with hippie traitors.

Why hippie traitors? Because they wouldn't fight? Then why not quaker traitors? Or amish traitors? Or mennonite traitors? Or jehova's witnesses traitors?

If your calling them that for other reasons, pay no attention to my remarks.

P.S.--I very much deslike the hippie message myself

No, I disagree with their often violent tactics.

[migrendel]

For the record, this is the current legal standard on nativity scenes. A government entity can display a nativity scene if placed within a secular context of Christmas being a national holiday, and does not imply endorsment of religion. This was decided in the case of Lynch v. Donelly, 5-4 (O'Connor, Rehnquist, Burger, White, and Powell in the majority, Brennan, Marshall, Blackmun, and Stevens in dissent). The Court has further clarified this rule by forbidding the display of a creche it felt to be too religious. This particular creche was ungarnished by any secularizing periphery, as the creche at issue in the Lynch case was, but did have a banner over it reading "Gloria in excelsis deo". This display was held to be unconstitutional in the case of Allegheny County v. ACLU (O'Connor, Brennan, Blackmun, Marshall, and Stevens in the majority, Rehnquist, White, Kennedy, and Scalia in dissent).

My personal position is a categorical opposition to these displays. I believe that we honor the tradition of freedom by keeping our government out of religion, and allowing it to be a matter left to the dictates of our own consciences, and not make pariahs out of certain members of the political community with such aggressive displays of Christianity.

[MarkDel]

For the record, this is the current legal standard on nativity scenes. A government entity can display a nativity scene if placed within a secular context of Christmas being a national holiday, and does not imply endorsment of religion. This was decided in the case of Lynch v. Donelly, 5-4 (O'Connor, Rehnquist, Burger, White, and Powell in the majority, Brennan, Marshall, Blackmun, and Stevens in dissent). The Court has further clarified this rule by forbidding the display of a creche it felt to be too religious. This particular creche was ungarnished by any secularizing periphery, as the creche at issue in the Lynch case was, but did have a banner over it reading "Gloria in excelsis deo". This display was held to be unconstitutional in the case of Allegheny County v. ACLU (O'Connor, Brennan, Blackmun, Marshall, and Stevens in the majority, Rehnquist, White, Kennedy, and Scalia in dissent).

My personal position is a categorical opposition to these displays. I believe that we honor the tradition of freedom by keeping our government out of religion, and allowing it to be a matter left to the dictates of our own consciences, and not make pariahs out of certain members of the political community with such aggressive displays of Christianity.

Migrendel,

That's a nice lesson in Con Law, but it actually has nothing to do with what the situation was in Palm Beach. They were excluding Christian displays while openly endorsing and promoting Jewish and Islamic displays...surely you would not agree that it's OK to promote one religion over another?

[bejkuy]

Scranton, PA; Brigdeport, Conn; Buffalo, NY; and Gary, IN.

Watch it! I like the Rustbelt (admittedly Gary proper is a sh*thole, but the other cities you mentioned aren't that bad).

If you want to pick on a Anthracite region town, go with Centralia. What's left of it...

You must mean Centralia Washington, our number one employer(around 1500 people)  is the coal mine and ajoining steam plant.

Yes, there is some coal in the Northwest.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Scranton, PA; Brigdeport, Conn; Buffalo, NY; and Gary, IN.

Watch it! I like the Rustbelt (admittedly Gary proper is a sh*thole, but the other cities you mentioned aren't that bad).

If you want to pick on a Anthracite region town, go with Centralia. What's left of it...

You must mean Centralia Washington, our number one employer(around 1500 people)  is the coal mine and ajoining steam plant.

Yes, there is some coal in the Northwest.

Nope. I mean Centralia, Pennsylvania. What's left of it anyway... I think a couple of people still live there.
Before the disaster it wasn't a bad little town from what I've heard.

[Schmitz in 1972]

There are several states which don't exactly have my affections

Maryland may be my least favorite because it's so disgustingly liberal, has an ugly flag, an ugly motto ("manly deeds, womanly words"), and an ugly city named Baltimore

Massachusetts has become a close second due to senators Kennedy and Kerry

[Akno21]

There are several states which don't exactly have my affections

Maryland may be my least favorite because it's so disgustingly liberal, has an ugly flag, an ugly motto ("manly deeds, womanly words"), and an ugly city named Baltimore

Massachusetts has become a close second due to senators Kennedy and Kerry

Baltimore is a better city than anything Virginia has. It's not our fault our flag stinks.

[Schmitz in 1972]

You may be right, Richmond has a higher murder rate than Manhattan.

Actually I dislike Baltimore a lot because my Cleveland Browns were moved here and were turned into the Ravens in '96 and then went on to win a Superbowl in '01. Since the Browns returned their experiences with the Ravens have been terrible (last year the Raven's Jamal Lewis set the single game rushing record vs. Cleveland).

And regardless of any of that it's still not a city I would particularly like to live in, but then again, neither would I like to live in the city of Richmond

[nclib]

I think that [politics] has to be a factor, but there are PLENTY of reasons why I hate Massachusetts that has nothing to do with politics.

Interesting you should say that, since there are plenty of reasons that I LOVE Massachusetts that have nothing to do with politics.

[Brambila]

Politically? Massachusetts; Vermont; Conneticut; Rhode Island; Maryland. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind living in any of those states. Boston might be fun.

[cwelsch]

The South and Mid-Atlantic are horrible for me.  I hate strong police powers and my personal experiences in both suggest to me the police are a little extra corrupt in many parts of the South and quite ticket-happy in the Mid-Atlantic.  And on a personal level I wouldn't want to live in Massachusetts because I'm not a Masshole.

[Akno21]

You may be right, Richmond has a higher murder rate than Manhattan.

Actually I dislike Baltimore a lot because my Cleveland Browns were moved here and were turned into the Ravens in '96 and then went on to win a Superbowl in '01. Since the Browns returned their experiences with the Ravens have been terrible (last year the Raven's Jamal Lewis set the single game rushing record vs. Cleveland).

And regardless of any of that it's still not a city I would particularly like to live in, but then again, neither would I like to live in the city of Richmond

O I see. The Ravens are actually my favorite team. I think the Ravens lead the all-time series vs. the Browns 7-3, although hte Browns did beat the Ravesn twice in 2001. I thank Art Modell for having to courage to come to Baltimore and making a new home for his great football team.