Worst US State

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Camden has a lower crime rate than Orlando and Tampa! Doesn't Mark live in Tampa?

http://www.city-data.com/top27.html

[Keystone Phil]

Camden has a lower crime rate than Orlando and Tampa! Doesn't Mark live in Tampa?

http://www.city-data.com/top27.html

That is impossible. Seriously, that makes no sense at all.

[??????????]

Camden has a lower crime rate than Orlando and Tampa! Doesn't Mark live in Tampa?

http://www.city-data.com/top27.html

Tampas' problem is illegals. Where Mark lives is probably one of the safest regions in this area.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Crime in Camden (2002):

33 murders (40.5 per 100,000)
45 rapes (55.2 per 100,000)
607 robberies (744.1 per 100,000)
797 assaults (977.0 per 100,000)
1,155 burglaries (1415.9 per 100,000)
2,407 larceny counts (2950.7 per 100,000)
1,081 auto thefts (1325.2 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 821.1 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6)

Crime in Tampa (2002):

37 murders (11.7 per 100,000)
204 rapes (64.3 per 100,000)
2,334 robberies (735.5 per 100,000)
3,714 assaults (1170.4 per 100,000)
6,283 burglaries (1980.0 per 100,000)
16,088 larceny counts (5069.9 per 100,000)
6,720 auto thefts (2117.7 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 1048.8 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6)

Crime in Orlando (2002):

15 murders (7.7 per 100,000)
121 rapes (62.2 per 100,000)
1,034 robberies (531.7 per 100,000)
2,449 assaults (1259.4 per 100,000)
3,710 burglaries (1907.9 per 100,000)
11,602 larceny counts (5966.4 per 100,000)
2,202 auto thefts (1132.4 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 948.3 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6)

[ilikeverin]

36. Branson, Missouri (1004.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Branson-Missouri.html

Family fun destination?  Pshaw

And look what's under it:

37. Detroit, Michigan (1003.9)

Hehehehe

[dazzleman]

I also say I'd take Camden over any Republican city. Camden has to be at least 85% Democrat. I consider Republicans a bigger problem than what Camden has.

That's sad, BRTD. Really, really sad.

would you rather live in somewhere like Camden that's 85% Republican or a clean city that's 85% Democrat?

No place that's as big a craphole as Camden would ever be 85% Republican.  Places like that are always heavily Democratic.  That's one of the reasons I'm a Republican.

[PBrunsel]

I will never live in New York, especially New York City. New York City scares me to death. I will never even visit New York City.

[PBrunsel]

I can only follow impressions, but South Dakota is supposed to be nothing but fields which doesn't sound very appealing.

Sioux Falls wouldn't be a terrible place to live. The state has a lot more barren land than actual fields though, at least the western part. The eastern part is kind of like the part of Minnesota that I live in (although it's not like my urban city of course). Either way anywhere outside of Sioux Falls would be boring as possible.

I would love to live in Sioux Falls.

I would love to live in a small city or small town.

[The Dowager Mod]

California.
eathquakes,floods,riots,schwarzennegger.
too many bad things happen there.

[Horus]

Utah.

[KEmperor]

I will never live in New York, especially New York City. New York City scares me to death. I will never even visit New York City.

Why the fear?

[PBrunsel]

I will never live in New York, especially New York City. New York City scares me to death. I will never even visit New York City.

Why the fear?

Big cities scare me. The homeless people most of all.

[KEmperor]

I will never live in New York, especially New York City. New York City scares me to death. I will never even visit New York City.

Why the fear?

Big cities scare me. The homeless people most of all.

Haven't you been listening to the lefty conspiracy theorists?  Giuliani secretly had all the homeless people in NYC rounded up and shot.

[nclib]

As much as I hate Texas, I'll vote Mississippi.

If I was forced to live in Texas, Austin's not a bad place.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Texas and Mississippi suck beyond the politics, they are TOO ING HOT

[nclib]

Al already mentioned some of these, but I would hate to live in:

-(as I stated earlier) Mississippi
-Utah outside Salt Lake
-southeastern Idaho
-exurban Atlanta (especially Cobb County)
-suburban New Orleans
-almost anywhere in Texas; especially west Texas; suburban Dallas; suburban Houston; College Station
-anywhere in Alabama (though Birmingham is barely bearable)
-inland South Carolina

[nclib]

Or exurban Colorado.

I hate the Colorado Springs area politically, but at least the tourism is nice.

[Fritz]

How about Alaska?  I mean sure, beautiful country there, be a good spot to vacation in the summer.  Winters in Minnesota are cold enough, I think.

[AuH2O]

Well, aside from various inner cities... Cambridge.

[freedomburns]

Worst = Utah.  Those Mormons have some strange ideas.  They live in this black and white, Norman Rockwell suburban fantasy land.  Civil liberties are not a priority for these folks.  Order is.

Idaho = second worst.  Not just full of racist, neo-Nazi kooks, but also way too cold.

Texas third, it is full of cowboys, but at least it is warm there.  It's not all bad, just mostly.  

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Interesting, where did you visit around Philly?

It was around Chester County.

[Lunar]

Texas third, it is full of cowboys, but at least it is warm there.  It's not all bad, just mostly.  

A steakhouse on every corner prevents any reasonable minded person from ever choosing that state as the worst, heh.

[Keystone Phil]

Interesting, where did you visit around Philly?

It was around Chester County.

Chester county - nice area.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Have you ever been to Camden, NJ?

I have. I'd much rather live there than in the suburbs.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Have you ever been to Camden, NJ?

I have. I'd much rather live there than in the suburbs.

hear hear!

although, Camden IS a suburb technically.