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« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2007, 07:18:41 PM »

I'm not too sure what they think gives them the right to remove someone from a Catholic Church.  If I were the Pope I would be livid... Bush's phone would be ringing off the hook.

But she wasn't in the church, she came outside to give a press conference and ended giving the reporters more of a story that she'd intended.  Oops!  In any case, even if one recognizes the right of churches to unilaterally grant sanctuary, Elvira didn't even attempt to claim political asylum status.  She was a purely economic migrant.  Although I suppose if one really wanted to stretch things beyond their proper shape, she could have claimed that she was being persecuted in the United States and gone to Mexico to seek asylum status there.

That's differeny.  I only breezed the article to be honest.
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« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2007, 07:22:24 PM »

She and others are also saying our laws are inhumane. I don't think they are.  .... I have a friend whos been living in the United States for 16 years, is a legal resident, and was only allowed to apply for citizenship and leave the country last year.

You just proved how insane and unfair our laws are.  You shouldn't have to wait 16 years to get citizenship.  No wonder people are just crossing the border.
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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2007, 08:30:07 AM »

We should set some simple qualificaitons for who can become a permanent resident or citizen and cut the bureaucracy.

1 No more blacks(We have enough plus given the trouble of digesting them)
2 no muslims
3 No people from south asia(india/pakistan), indonesia or the middle east
4 English speaking
5 Pass the citizenship test\
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« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2007, 08:48:37 AM »

GOOD! Finally. If I were the Feds, I'd just have barged into the church (and I'm a conservative Christian, remember).
What a coherent person,then.
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« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2007, 08:59:05 AM »

GOOD! Finally. If I were the Feds, I'd just have barged into the church (and I'm a conservative Christian, remember).
What a coherent person,then.

Just b/c I'm a Christian doesn't mean I don't think the gov't can go into a church and arrest somebody.
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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2007, 10:58:22 PM »

I'm not too sure what they think gives them the right to remove someone from a Catholic Church.  If I were the Pope I would be livid... Bush's phone would be ringing off the hook.

But she wasn't in the church, she came outside to give a press conference and ended giving the reporters more of a story that she'd intended.  Oops!  In any case, even if one recognizes the right of churches to unilaterally grant sanctuary, Elvira didn't even attempt to claim political asylum status.  She was a purely economic migrant.  Although I suppose if one really wanted to stretch things beyond their proper shape, she could have claimed that she was being persecuted in the United States and gone to Mexico to seek asylum status there.

That's differeny.  I only breezed the article to be honest.
It wasn't a catholic church either.
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« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2007, 06:12:51 PM »

GOOD! Finally. If I were the Feds, I'd just have barged into the church (and I'm a conservative Christian, remember).
What a coherent person,then.

Just b/c I'm a Christian doesn't mean I don't think the gov't can go into a church and arrest somebody.
Wouldn't that be going against the Church's "rules" or w/e it is,and be a sin?
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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2007, 07:27:07 PM »

GOOD! Finally. If I were the Feds, I'd just have barged into the church (and I'm a conservative Christian, remember).
What a coherent person,then.

Just b/c I'm a Christian doesn't mean I don't think the gov't can go into a church and arrest somebody.
Wouldn't that be going against the Church's "rules" or w/e it is,and be a sin?

What - arresting somebody?  I don't know what "that" is referring to - so sorry if this sounded sarcastic - it wasn't meant to be.
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« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2007, 05:39:13 PM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.
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« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2007, 05:53:25 PM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.
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« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2007, 07:37:18 PM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.
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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2007, 10:47:36 PM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

Doesn't mean he can't go to Mexico.
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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2007, 12:22:15 AM »
« Edited: August 30, 2007, 09:25:06 AM by Kevin »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you do things illegally.
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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2007, 12:25:33 AM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

Citizenship is a universal human right.
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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2007, 12:29:39 AM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

So children pay for the sins of the parents now? I thought we moved past that centuries ago.
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« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2007, 12:39:28 AM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

Citizenship is a universal human right.

If he wants to go live with his mother let him as he will still retain his citizenship.
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« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2007, 12:55:51 AM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

Citizenship is a universal human right.

Um, no. You don't have an automatic right to be a US citizen just because you illegally come here.
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« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2007, 03:14:29 AM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

Well, I'm glad you support reparations for descendants of slaves.
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« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2007, 07:34:20 AM »

Human rights is a convenient legal fiction which only applies to citizens of first world nations.
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« Reply #69 on: August 30, 2007, 02:55:12 PM »

If she is so concerned about her son being left in the US, she can let me know and I'll pick up the tab for his return flight back to Mexico so he can join her.

Her son is a US citizen.

You know you pay a price when you doe things illegally.

So children pay for the sins of the parents now? I thought we moved past that centuries ago.

Or he can stay here, he is entitled.  Thats fine.  But if she is so worried aout the broken family, then she should want her son to go join her. 
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