Judicial Term Limits Amendment [Failed]

[minionofmidas]

I motion to add at the end of this legislation the following phrase [friendly amendment]:
"This amendment shall not apply to any Justice currently serving on the Court."

Let's have a vote on that.

[minionofmidas]

I do appreciate this suggestion by Lewis Trondheim,

I think you mean Porce's suggestion, but nvm.

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Under which clause?

[minionofmidas]

Anyways, I will vote against Porce's amendment

I motion to add at the end of this legislation the following phrase [friendly amendment]:
"This amendment shall not apply to any Justice currently serving on the Court."

Let's have a vote on that.

I think that makes the necessary two objections?

[minionofmidas]

I will respectfully urge the senate to pass Ebowed's amendment, I can not speak for the other members of the court, but i for one will not be able to effectively do my job while at the same time being forced to look over my shoulder and perform like a trained monkey in an attempt to please the senate and/or the president because i have to worry about ruling the wrong way everytime a case comes up.

Well, all I can say is: You don't have to do that to get my vote for reconfirmation.

[minionofmidas]

I will respectfully urge the senate to pass Ebowed's amendment, I can not speak for the other members of the court, but i for one will not be able to effectively do my job while at the same time being forced to look over my shoulder and perform like a trained monkey in an attempt to please the senate and/or the president because i have to worry about ruling the wrong way everytime a case comes up.

Well, all I can say is: You don't have to do that to get my vote for reconfirmation.

Anyone who remembers my initial confirmation hearings will understand where i'm coming from here.

Sorry, I don't. Probably didn't read them at the time.

(Yes, I know there's a vote open. I merely haven't voted yet.)

[minionofmidas]

With a heavy heart, and while still not quite if it's the right vote, I take the advice of my party leader and the chief justice, both of whom I respect greatly, and vote

Aye.

[minionofmidas]

Nay.

If cloture fails, I'm introducing the following amendment, to replace the current version:

Section 1: Members of the Supreme Court shall serve terms of 12 months. Every 12 months, each member of the Supreme Court of Atlasia shall undergo an annual performance evaluation in front of the Senate of Atlasia.  If a 2/3rd majority of the Senate finds a Justice to be inadequate, the President must replace the Justice.  If less than 2/3rd of the Senate finds a Justice to be inadequate, the Justice shall continue to serve. Justices shall continue to serve until a successor has been confirmed.

Section 2: Currently serving members of the court shall undergo their first annual performance evaluation on the anniversary of their confirmation.
Section 2 means that TexasGurl, who has served for just over a year, won't come up for another 11 months. What "inadequate" is is up to the Senate.

[minionofmidas]

I support Lewis's amendment, though if passed, there's a couple of language things I would like to change - 1) Defining the two-thirds majority in similar language as veto overrides/Constitutional amendments, so 7 votes are needed always; 2) Giving the Senate the power to define the scope of the "performance evaulation" by legislation.

I may think of something else, but otherwise I think it's good.

Not a prob with either. Basically I just took King's text and removed the complicated "if between a half and two thirds" part.

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

Do you need cloture after a certain amount of time?

No. But we now have cloture anyways.

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[minionofmidas]

At present, there is one justice on the Supreme Court that I feel lacks the judicial temperament to be on there, indeed he may have been the only justice to ever lack the judicial temperament to be on there. 

We had MAS once.