Is your position on the following issues authoritarian or libertarian?

[fezzyfestoon]

A whiff of it in passing?  I'm not that hyper.  Diners and restaurants should feel free to ban smoking, in fact I'd likely frequent establishments that do.  But they shouldn't be forced into it, especially not bars.  Smoking is a stupid cultural development and I think we're doing a good job at educating people and encouraging quitting without extreme overreaction.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Alcohol sales restrictions - Libertarian, though really, what is the harm in state-owned liquor stores?

Better question: What is the point?

[tpfkaw]

There has been no scientific study that wasn't later shown to be bullsh**t which has shown any link between secondhand smoke and cancer.

Although I wouldn't really mind if the state banned it on state-owned property (which there should be as little of as possible).

[Marokai Backbeat]

Alcohol sales restrictions - Libertarian, though really, what is the harm in state-owned liquor stores?

Better question: What is the point?

I guess that would better get my point across. I'm not pro-state liquor stores, I just don't think it's that big of an issue either way.

There has been no scientific study that wasn't later shown to be bullsh**t which has shown any link between secondhand smoke and cancer.

Although I wouldn't really mind if the state banned it on state-owned property (which there should be as little of as possible).

You cannot be serious. There have been studies showing that second-hand smoke is harmful. There have been studies that show even breathing in second-hand smoke for a few minutes can affect your heart health for a few hours or so. There have been studies that showed, when smoking bans were implemented, public health improved in the months and years following. There have even been studies that showed cigarette smoke was just as toxic, if not moreso, than car exhaust.

Even obnoxious libertarians like Penn & Teller later recanted most of their show on second hand smoke and admitted they were wrong. It's not really that complicated of an issue, even common sense would tell you breathing in all the garbage in cigarettes can't be very good for you.

[Goldwater]

I understand that second hand smoke is deadly, but I just don't think restaurants & bars should be forced to ban smoking. IMHO, that's kind of like saying drinking can kill you, so it should be banned from all restaurants.

[fezzyfestoon]

I understand that second hand smoke is deadly, but I just don't think restaurants & bars should be forced to ban smoking. IMHO, that's kind of like saying drinking can kill you, so it should be banned from all restaurants.

Not at ALL.  Moderate drinking can be mildly beneficial, but each cigarette is terrible for you.

[Beet]

Guns- Authoritarian. Although I don't actually oppose gun ownership so much as the zeitgeist of "gun chic" that has emerged in recent years.
Gambling- Libertarian.
Alcohol sales restrictions- Libertarian.
Tobacco- Libertarian.
Smoking in public- Libertarian.
Tobacco advertising- Libertarian.
Strip clubs- Libertarian.
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)- Libertarian.
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")- Libertarian.
Pornography- Libertarian.
Prostitution- Authoritarian in low class areas because it usually involves exploited/underage/drug addicted girls and women.
Fast food- Libertarian.
Pop sales in high schools- Libertarian.
School uniforms- Libertarian.
Marketing to minors- Neutral.
Violence in the media- Libertarian.
Sex in the media- Libertarian.
Profanity in the media- Libertarian.
Suburban development- Libertarian.

Hmmm, this is probably the most libertarian poll result you'll ever see me get.

[Sewer]

IMHO, that's kind of like saying drinking can kill you, so it should be banned from all restaurants.

Yeah, if there was such a thing as second hand drinking.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I understand that second hand smoke is deadly, but I just don't think restaurants & bars should be forced to ban smoking. IMHO, that's kind of like saying drinking can kill you, so it should be banned from all restaurants.

As Fezzy said, drinking in small amounts actually has some studied benefits.

But more than that, there is no such thing as "second-hand drinking" that harms people around you by virtue of just having a glass of wine, or whatever your alcoholic beverage of choice would be. The mere act of smoking instantly harms the health around everyone around you who happens to breathe in that smoke.

Moreover, when it comes to drinking public, there are alot of laws against being intoxicated in public. Drunk driving laws, public intoxication laws, and so on, all of the dangerous aspects of drinking too much to the point of harming others is pretty much covered.

Even if drinking too much killed you, it would be that person's own stupid choice. I have no problem with whatever harm people decide to do to themselves.

Edit: Damn you Sewer.

[Phony Moderate]

Guns - A
Gambling - L
Alcohol sales restrictions - L
Tobacco - A
Smoking in public - A
Tobacco advertising - A
Strip clubs - L
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - L
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - L
Pornography - L
Prostitution - L
Fast food - L
Pop sales in high schools - L
School uniforms - L
Marketing to minors - L
Violence in the media - L
Sex in the media - L
Profanity in the media - L
Suburban development - Depends

[tpfkaw]

If you shave using a spray can, you are inhaling more carcinogens than if you spend a couple seconds walking past someone smoking.

If you put Classic Ranch dressing on your salad, as opposed to Balsamic Vinaigrette, you are shortening your life more than if you spend a couple seconds walking past someone smoking.

You mention car exhausts.  I find your claims somewhat dubious, since people can kill themselves with car exhaust and I've never heard of anyone immediately dying from inhaling secondhand smoke, but think about the total quantity of noxious substances released into the atmosphere by car exhausts and compare that to the amount released by smoking.  It's got to be around 1,000,000 to 1.

If you ride a motorcycle (which releases a few packs of cigarettes worth of filthy smoke from its two-stroke engine every few minutes), you are statistically shortening your life much more than even if you yourself smoke.

Of course, Jeanne Calment, the oldest person who ever lived (to 122) had a two-packs-a-day habit until age 117.

[Goldwater]

IMHO, that's kind of like saying drinking can kill you, so it should be banned from all restaurants.

Yeah, if there was such a thing as second hand drinking.

But you can chose whether or not to enter a restaurant that allows smoking, just like you can chose whether or not to drink.

[Boris]

Guns - Existing gun laws in North America and Europe are fine
Gambling - L
Alcohol sales restrictions - Should be sold 24/7 and open-carry should be legal.
Tobacco - Don't care for cigarettes and cigars but hookah
Smoking in public - Just use common sense and decency
Tobacco advertising - L
Strip clubs - L
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - L
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - L
Pornography - L
Prostitution - Limit it to regulated brothels in designated areas...
Fast food - should not be consumed by fat people
Pop sales in high schools - L
School uniforms - Oppose
Marketing to minors - don't care
Violence in the media - L
Sex in the media - L
Profanity in the media - L
Suburban development - suburbs are boring.

[dead0man]

Guns-very libertarian
Gambling-very libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions-libertarian
Tobacco-libertarian
Smoking in public-libertarian
Tobacco advertising-libertarian
Strip clubs-libertarian (but still find them icky, sad places)
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)-libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")-libertarian
Pornography-libertarian
Prostitution-libertarian
Fast food-libertarian
Pop sales in high schools-libertarian
School uniforms-libertarian
Marketing to minors-libertarian
Violence in the media-libertarian
Sex in the media-libertarian
Profanity in the media-libertarian
Suburban development-libertarian

That was easy.

[courts]

Guns-very libertarian
Gambling- mixed
Alcohol sales restrictions-libertarian
Tobacco-libertarian
Smoking in public- i guess not wanting to inhale toxins every time i go out is authoritarian
Tobacco advertising-libertarian
Strip clubs- not in a residential area
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)-libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")-libertarian
Pornography-libertarian
Prostitution-lean authoritarian
Fast food-libertarian
Pop sales in high schools- opposing it is libertarian, we're talking about public money being used to set up machinese with coca cola and others pushing for it for obvious reasons
School uniforms-authoritarian
Marketing to minors-libertarian
Violence in the media-libertarian
Sex in the media-libertarian
Profanity in the media-libertarian
Suburban development-libertarian

[dead0man]

Pop sales in high schools- opposing it is libertarian, we're talking about public money being used to set up machinese with coca cola and others pushing for it for obvious reasons

There are only two ways (that I can think of) of how a soda machine can appear in a school.  The school buys one and then makes a killing on the profits (paying for the costs of the machine in very little time) or someone else comes in with a machine, makes a killing and gives the school a cut of the profits.  I can't see how a school could lose money on soda machines (although the way a lot of schools are run I wouldn't be suprised either).  I can see some reasons to not want the machines on school campuses...kids are stupid gluttons being at the top of the list, but that would be an authoritarian reason.

Unless I'm missing something (the "obvious reasons" part maybe?), I don't understand how opposing them could be libertarian.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Guns- libertarian
Gambling- libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions- libertarian
Tobacco- libertarian
Smoking in public- libertarian
Tobacco advertising- libertarian
Strip clubs- libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)- libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")- libertarian
Pornography- libertarian
Prostitution- libertarian
Fast food- mixed (small sales tax on this would be fine by me)
Pop sales in high schools- authoritarian
School uniforms- libertarian
Marketing to minors- mixed (marketing fast food towards minors = no no)
Violence in the media- libertarian
Sex in the media- libertarian
Profanity in the media- libertarian
Suburban development- lean authoritarian (smart development > retarded growth patterns that will create future poor neighborhoods with no future)

[Antonio the Sixth]

Color key :
- libertarian
- lean libertarian
- lean authoritarian
- authoritarian
- don't know/don't care


Guns
Gambling
Alcohol sales restrictions
Tobacco
Smoking in public
Tobacco advertising
Strip clubs
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")
Pornography
Prostitution
Fast food
Pop sales in high schools
School uniforms
Marketing to minors
Violence in the media
Sex in the media
Profanity in the media
Suburban development

[k-onmmunist]

Color key :
- libertarian
- lean libertarian
- lean authoritarian
- authoritarian
- don't know/don't care


Guns
Gambling
Alcohol sales restrictions
Tobacco
Smoking in public
Tobacco advertising
Strip clubs
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")
Pornography
Prostitution
Fast food
Pop sales in high schools
School uniforms
Marketing to minors
Violence in the media
Sex in the media
Profanity in the media
Suburban development

[nclib]

Guns - Authoritarian
Gambling - Lean Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - Libertarian on "blue laws" (I oppose Sunday AM sale bans), lean Authoritarian on protecting public safety (ex. restricting baseball sales to before 7th inning)
Tobacco - Authoritarian
Smoking in public - Authoritarian
Tobacco advertising - Authoritarian
Strip clubs - Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - lean Authoritarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - If by "morality", you mean conservative Christian morality, which sadly is what is usually meant by that, then Libertarian
Pornography - Libertarian
Prostitution - lean Libertarian (support legalization, but would have restrictions to protect public health)
Fast food - Middle
Pop sales in high schools - Libertarian, but schools should be encouraged to also provide healthier drinks
School uniforms - very Libertarian
Marketing to minors - Middle
Violence in the media - lean Authoritarian
Sex in the media - very Libertarian on sexual explicit concepts and nudity, actual sex acts lean Libertarian compared to status quo
Profanity in the media - Libertarian (if forced to censor some language, I'd rather censor racial/sexual slurs than profanity)
Suburban development - very Authoritarian (most people I know don't care for sprawl but participate in it for pragmatic reasons--it wouldn't need to happen if there was more coordinated development)

[Earth]

Guns - Libertarian
Gambling - Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - Libertarian
Tobacco - Libertarian
Smoking in public - Libertarian
Tobacco advertising - Authoritarian on marketing itself
Strip clubs - Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Libertarian
Pornography - Libertarian
Prostitution - Libertarian
Fast food - Libertarian
Pop sales in high schools - Libertarian
School uniforms - Libertarian
Marketing to minors - Authoritarian on marketing itself
Violence in the media - Libertarian
Sex in the media - Libertarian
Profanity in the media - Libertarian
Suburban development - Authoritarian

[Del Tachi]

Guns-Neither authoritarian nor libertarian, moderate.
Gambling-Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions-Libertarian
Tobacco-Libertarian
Smoking in public-Libertarian
Tobacco advertising-Libertarian
Strip clubs-Authoritian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)-Uhh, eating disorders are not the fashion industy's fault...
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")-Get off the fashion industry's back!!!
Pornography-Authoritian, but I do not support illegalization. 
Prostitution-Authoritian
Fast food-Libertarian
Pop sales in high schools-Libertarian
School uniforms-Libertarian
Marketing to minors-Libertarian
Violence in the media-Parent's choice, libertarian
Sex in the media-Parent's choise, libertarian
Profanity in the media-Authoritian
Suburban development-Extrembley libertarian.  Who cares about wetlands anyway?
 
 
 

[Dr. Cynic]

Guns- centrist lean libertarian
Gambling- libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions- libertarian
Tobacco- libertarian
Smoking in public- moderate authoritarian
Tobacco advertising- libertarian
Strip clubs- libertarian
Fashion industry - libertarian
Pornography- libertarian
Prostitution- libertarian
Fast food- libertarian
Pop sales in high schools- very libertarian
School uniforms- libertarian
Marketing to minors- libertarian
Violence in the media- libertarian
Sex in the media- libertarian
Profanity in the media- libertarian
Suburban development- authoritarian, I guess

[Ebowed]

Guns - Illegal
Gambling - Legal
Alcohol sales restrictions - Preferably minimal
Tobacco - Legal
Smoking in public - Legal
Tobacco advertising - Legal
Strip clubs - Legal
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - Unregulated
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Irrelevant concern.
Pornography - Legal
Prostitution - Legal
Fast food - Legal, over-taxed, and over-regulated
Pop sales in high schools - Illegal
School uniforms - Illegal
Marketing to minors - Not the best thing in the world
Violence in the media - Legal
Sex in the media - Legal
Profanity in the media - Definitely legal
Suburban development - If this is code for the way cities are hideously underfunded, oppose.

[feeblepizza]

Guns - Libertarian
Gambling - Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - Libertarian
Tobacco - Libertarian
Smoking in public - Libertarian
Tobacco advertising - Libertarian
Strip clubs - Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Libertarian
Pornography - Libertarian
Prostitution - Libertarian
Fast food - Libertarian
Pop sales in high schools - Libertarian
School uniforms - Libertarian
Marketing to minors - Libertarian
Violence in the media - Libertarian
Sex in the media - Libertarian
Profanity in the media - Libertarian
Suburban development - Libertarian