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« Reply #475 on: August 30, 2011, 01:21:25 pm »

more cool stuff by old constituencies:

Rocard in 1969:


and a very interesting map of the 1979 EU elections (UDF 27.6%, PS 23.5%, PCF 20.5%, RPR 16.3%)

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« Reply #476 on: August 30, 2011, 01:40:58 pm »
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It is me, or the Rocard 1969 maps looks like much more late maps for the PS?
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« Reply #477 on: August 30, 2011, 02:38:43 pm »

It is me, or the Rocard 1969 maps looks like much more late maps for the PS?

That's actually an interesting comment. The overlap isn't entirely there (the mining belt of the Nord, Strasbourg, Limousin, old SW, Allier etc), but there are the signs of the future evolutions of the PS. It makes sense given that the PS' electorate has been gentrified significantly in recent years with the left-wing leanings of the new middle-classes, professionals and bobos. The PSU's base being partly students, future professionals and future bobos in their revolutionary phase, it makes sense.
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« Reply #478 on: August 30, 2011, 04:54:31 pm »
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Starting up the 2002 project again.

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« Reply #479 on: August 31, 2011, 04:03:50 am »
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Wow, the Paris Metro really liked Rocard.
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« Reply #480 on: August 31, 2011, 06:16:35 am »
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It is me, or the Rocard 1969 maps looks like much more late maps for the PS?

That's actually an interesting comment. The overlap isn't entirely there (the mining belt of the Nord, Strasbourg, Limousin, old SW, Allier etc), but there are the signs of the future evolutions of the PS. It makes sense given that the PS' electorate has been gentrified significantly in recent years with the left-wing leanings of the new middle-classes, professionals and bobos. The PSU's base being partly students, future professionals and future bobos in their revolutionary phase, it makes sense.

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I couldn't have answered in a better way Wink.

It's a map of "anticipation"....
Finistère and areas around Rennes, Nantes, Angers, Caen, Dijon, departments like Doubs or Oise, the 3rd ring around Paris.
Niort and the influence of complementary health insurance companies (mutuelles) set there is fascinating.

Of course, there is also the signs of some local bigwigs (Dubedout in Grenoble and Isère).

And, as I've said it 2 or 3 years ago, it's also the future maps of Rocard inside the PS, when you see so different places as Gers, Orléans and Haute-Marne ! (except maybe for Puy-de-Dôme and Caen).

Like Bouchardeau 1981, Juquin 1988 or some Le Pen results, it's really an enjoyable map.
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« Reply #481 on: September 03, 2011, 11:06:40 pm »
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« Reply #482 on: September 04, 2011, 03:31:27 am »
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What's with the leftwing vote east of Caen? What's the tradition here?
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« Reply #483 on: September 08, 2011, 09:02:41 pm »
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« Reply #484 on: October 05, 2011, 08:28:41 pm »

I contacted the CDSP and they fixed their 1974 results!

So, before I get drowned in other things, a few maps:

The obvious results of the runoff


But how can I do without a map for my political mentor and idol, the late great Jean Royer?

I know my strength map usually have 6 categories, but Royer is too great to get only 6, so he gets 8. If you don't like this, you're a bunch of young sexual deviants!
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« Reply #485 on: October 05, 2011, 08:43:03 pm »

And a final goodie!



'progressives' were right-wingers who weren't as reactionary as the 'conservatives' (a lot of which were monarchists). The 'republicans' were rather right-wing by then too.
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« Reply #486 on: October 05, 2011, 09:49:34 pm »
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Royer's map is wonderful exemple of friends and neighbours, on a large scale.
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« Reply #487 on: October 06, 2011, 01:57:47 am »
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1974 is really another time...

The 15th arrondissement of Paris has always fascinated me in the first half of the 20th century: so socialist, when you see what it is now.
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« Reply #488 on: October 06, 2011, 02:47:24 am »
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Hash, your contributions to this thread are just unvaluable. Those maps are fascinating, especially the last one. Smiley I could stay hours watching it. Cheesy
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« Reply #489 on: October 07, 2011, 02:33:36 am »
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Royer's map is wonderful exemple of friends and neighbours, on a large scale.

Chaban's one was too.

I find it interesting to see that rural plateau in Doubs (the Siberian Jura, if you wish Grin) is a "stronghold" for Royer, sort of. Something with craftsmen (wooden toys, among other small and local activities), small artisans ?

And the 7th and 8th arrondissements in Paris, too: probably the phenomenon of building , like Edouard Frédéric-Dupont, the long-time mayor and MP for 7th arrondissement.
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« Reply #490 on: October 12, 2011, 04:02:06 pm »

randomly fell across this really interesting synthesis map of the political typology of western France as laid down by Siegfried in 1913.

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« Reply #491 on: October 12, 2011, 05:45:32 pm »
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Could you send it to me by mail ? It's hardly readable but seems absolutely fantastic.
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« Reply #492 on: October 27, 2011, 09:50:17 am »

More old maps

Tixier in 1965



Dumont in 1974



the Greenies in 1979



Any specific requests? I can pretty much do anything, within reasonable limits.
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« Reply #493 on: October 27, 2011, 11:37:07 am »
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If you want a really grand OTT project, then you could do worse than whichever candidates from 1969 you've not done yet.
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« Reply #494 on: October 30, 2011, 09:29:06 am »
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Marcilhacy 65
Defferre 69
Juquin 88
Bouchardeau 81
Garaud 81
Madelin 02
Boutin 02

but you've probably done some of them already.

Oh, Pasqua-Villiers in European elections of 1999 would be very fine !
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« Reply #495 on: October 30, 2011, 11:36:02 am »

Madelin and Boutin were done and are probably hidden in this thread somewhere, but I could re-do them. I've just revamped all my constituency base maps since 1958.
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« Reply #496 on: October 30, 2011, 06:13:41 pm »
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1974 is really another time...

The 15th arrondissement of Paris has always fascinated me in the first half of the 20th century: so socialist, when you see what it is now.

I should add that there was a big Citroën factory in the 15th arrondissement.
But don't know if workers live nearby. That's probable though.
Never done any research on this.
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« Reply #497 on: October 30, 2011, 06:17:28 pm »

1974 is really another time...

The 15th arrondissement of Paris has always fascinated me in the first half of the 20th century: so socialist, when you see what it is now.

I should add that there was a big Citroën factory in the 15th arrondissement.
But don't know if workers live nearby. That's probable though.
Never done any research on this.

Paris was far more proletarian in 1910 or so, though less than in the 1840s of course.

I have Marcilhacy done, but I'm doing something interesting quickly re: 1988 and 2007.
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« Reply #498 on: October 30, 2011, 07:20:12 pm »
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1974 is really another time...

The 15th arrondissement of Paris has always fascinated me in the first half of the 20th century: so socialist, when you see what it is now.

I should add that there was a big Citroën factory in the 15th arrondissement.
But don't know if workers live nearby. That's probable though.
Never done any research on this.

If this is the first half of the twentieth century then, yes, they would have done. It was the same everywhere; manual workers could not afford to live more than a certain distance from their place of work. This is why (or one of the main reasons why) you had the development of occupational communities even in big cities.
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« Reply #499 on: October 30, 2011, 09:38:44 pm »
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Why was Paris proper so much more blue in 1974?
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