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Topic: French Elections 1848-2010 (Read 92686 times)
Californian Tony
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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Reply #575 on:
April 17, 2012, 01:48:58 am »
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 16, 2012, 06:19:44 pm
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 16, 2012, 03:50:56 pm
btw, I picked up Goguel's atlas of sorts of elections between 1871 and 1956. Anybody up for some old maps?
Always.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 17, 2012, 12:29:41 pm »
Heh, your description made me go "wait a sec", look at the key, and laugh hard. I tend to automatically assume that red means decline on maps like that...
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Californian Tony
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 17, 2012, 04:10:31 pm »
Quote from: Minion of Midas on April 17, 2012, 12:29:41 pm
Heh, your description made me go "wait a sec", look at the key, and laugh hard. I tend to automatically assume that red means decline on maps like that...
I've always considered that, in a map, increase should be signified by reddish colors and decline by blueish color. I don't get why people tend to assume the opposite. I find it logical that hot colors are something positive and cold colors something negative.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 17, 2012, 05:28:05 pm »
Meh, in all my cases the colours are pretty ideological. In an FN change map, I'd use shades of brown for an increase and blue for a decrease. In a UMP change map, I'm pretty sure I'd use red to show decrease.
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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Reply #579 on:
April 18, 2012, 02:53:34 am »
Added a bit more to my France 2002 map.
Right click to enlarge.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 18, 2012, 04:30:03 am »
This is infinitely beautiful. I long to see the final version !
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homelycooking
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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Reply #581 on:
April 18, 2012, 07:15:26 am »
Great work, Shilly. Soon we'll have full commune maps of both the 2002 and 2007 first rounds.
Also, how are you indicating ties on your map?
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Shilly
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 18, 2012, 06:39:41 pm »
I'm using stripes for ties, but they don't show up well on this map, due to the compression.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 18, 2012, 07:23:43 pm »
Simply using .png's should help a great deal - but yeah, brilliant.
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Shilly
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 18, 2012, 09:01:23 pm »
OK, I got the PNG's size low enough to upload to the gallery. I've updated my previous post to show the new cleaner looking map, so check it out.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 18, 2012, 10:12:32 pm »
Thanks for that. But I still don't see any striped communes.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 19, 2012, 03:47:46 am »
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 17, 2012, 05:28:05 pm
Meh, in all my cases the colours are pretty ideological. In an FN change map, I'd use shades of brown for an increase and blue for a decrease. In a UMP change map, I'm pretty sure I'd use red to show decrease.
Yeah, I figured that might be the reason. It does make sense, of course, and I've seen it done before.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 27, 2012, 07:14:31 pm »
My greatest triumph as a political cartographer: the first complete map of France's communes in Atlas color scale (5%). Color-striping for tied communes.
Right-click and zoom in for enormous version.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 27, 2012, 07:45:01 pm »
Holy crap! Thanks a billion for that. Fascinating map - I hope a 2012 version (even more interesting...) is forthcoming
But how am I suppose to live up to those standards? Might as well give up with my puny little constituency maps!
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 27, 2012, 07:50:05 pm »
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 27, 2012, 07:45:01 pm
Might as well give up with my puny little constituency maps!
Please don't!
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 27, 2012, 08:15:59 pm »
Holy crap, this is amazing!
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 27, 2012, 08:28:26 pm »
Ah, now that's something.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 28, 2012, 03:35:55 am »
Yet there's still much room for improvement my friend.
What's grey? What's black? (Tie and three-way tie?) Where are the Pacific islands, the smaller Atlantic islands, the French abroad?
EDIT: The "grey" is actually the lightest Le Pen shade. My bad.
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Californian Tony
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 28, 2012, 05:12:15 am »
This is fantastic, Homely !
Congrats, you probably have done a hell of a job to reach this result.
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 27, 2012, 07:45:01 pm
I hope a 2012 version (even more interesting...) is forthcoming
Indeed. The pinker, the better !
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 28, 2012, 10:36:17 am »
Mille bravos !
Mazette... Ca, c'est de la carte !
Well, big congratulations. I've already stolen it and it's in my PC now.
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homelycooking
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 30, 2012, 11:39:34 am »
So from making that humungo-map, here's a little report on who won what in terms of communes:
Sarkozy
: about 26,000 communes.
Royal
: about 8,000 communes.
Bayrou
: about 1,000 communes.
Le Pen
: about 500 communes.
Besancenot
: 0 communes. Tied for lead in two very small communes.
de Villiers
: 4 communes. One in Vendee, one in Indre, two in Ardeche. Tied in three or four more.
Buffet
: 13 communes. One each in Drome, Gard, Haute-Garonne, Pyrenees-Orientales, Ariege and Nord. Three in Correze and four in Corsica. Ties in two or three more, including one in Allier.
Voynet
: 1 commune: Joucou in Aude (it's tiny). No ties.
Laguiller
: 0 communes - the only candidate not to win or tie in any.
Bove
: 4 communes. One each in Lozere, Drome, Hautes-Alpes and Ariege. Tied in one or two more.
Nihous
: 2 communes. One in Manche, one in Herault of all places. I think he also managed a four way tie somewhere in Hautes-Pyrenees by winning two votes. LOL, rural France.
Schivardi
: 1 commune: Mailhac in Aude, of course, where he's the mayor. No ties.
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April 30, 2012, 12:30:33 pm »
And to go along with my analysis, a funny little map:
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 30, 2012, 12:31:16 pm »
Hilarious.
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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April 30, 2012, 04:37:12 pm »
Quote from: Den stygge kjøkken on April 27, 2012, 07:14:31 pm
My greatest triumph as a political cartographer: the first complete map of France's communes in Atlas color scale (5%). Color-striping for tied communes.
Right-click and zoom in for enormous version.
how many time have you use for this
work of Titans
?
Impressive !
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Re: French Elections 1848-2010
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Hash, have you a blank map with new legislative constituencies, by chance ?
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