By a Fluke of the Gods: Cox Defeats Harding

[MasterJedi]

Ashbrook won like I suspected. It should be interesting to see how his Presidency goes. Keep up the good work!

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Ashbrook won like I suspected. It should be interesting to see how his Presidency goes. Keep up the good work!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[HappyWarrior]

I'd like to ask if Joe Biden has been elected as a Republican in this TL?  I hope he has cause I doubt he'd be a member of this Democratic party.

[PBrunsel]

HappyWarrior,

Joe Biden and Jesse Helms were both elected to the Senate in 1972, as it was in real life. Biden is a Republican and Helms is a Democrat. I, like you, could not see Biden join the Democrats of my timeline.

[Хahar 🤔]

Where's Gene McCarthy right now?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

HappyWarrior,

Joe Biden and Jesse Helms were both elected to the Senate in 1972, as it was in real life. Biden is a Republican and Helms is a Democrat. I, like you, could not see Biden join the Democrats of my timeline.

It's disgusting to have Jesse Helms as a Democrat, no matter what happens.

[HappyWarrior]

What about Spiro T. Agnew and Walter Mondale?

[PBrunsel]

Here are some answers to what happened to some politicians.

Gene McCarthy (R-MN) Eugene McCarthy served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1949-1959. He served as a Republican in the Senate from 1959-1971. He was known as a solid progressive on social issues and as a watchdog on government pork spending. He also opposed U.S. entry into the Russo-Chinese War. This opposition led to him being defeated in the 1970 MN Republican Primary by Representative Walter Mondale.

Walter Mondale (R-MN): Elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1960, Mondale was renowned for his efficency and honesty. He defeated Senator McCarthy in the 1970 Republican Primary and was narrowly elected against Democratic Congressman Clark MacGregor. Senator Mondale was consitently voted on of the top 5 most efficient senators by the Washington Post and was easily reelected until he retired in 1995.

Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD): Governor Agnew was a moderate Republican who, quite out of the blue, was elected Governor of Maryland in 1966. He presided over a scandal ridden administraion, where, while running for reelection in 1970, was indicted for money laundering and perjury. His successor was Marvin Mandel, a Democrat who would also be thrown into jail for money laundering and mail fraud. A strong supporter of Governor Nelson Rockefeller's three bids for the White House, Agnew was Rockefeller camapign chair in 1960 and 1964.   

[Хahar 🤔]

Can I have some info on the Gores?

[PBrunsel]

Xahar,

Albert Gore, Senior, was a Senator from Tennessee (1953-1963). He was appointed to the Vice-Presidency by President Joseph P. Kennedy, Junior, in May 1963 upon the assassination of Stuart Symington. Vice-President Gore ran for the 1964 Democratic presidential nomination, but lost it to Senator Barry Goldwater.

Al Gore, Clinton's veep in real life, worked as an infantryman and field reporter during the Russo-Chinese War. He was wounded twice by enemy fire and received the Purple Heart twice. In 1973, he is working as a report for the Nashville Star and preparing to run for Congress in 1974 as a conservative Democrat. The 26-year old reporter is expected to easily win his father's old congressional seat, TN-4.

[Хahar 🤔]

Xahar,

Albert Gore, Senior, was a Senator from Tennessee (1953-1963). He was appointed to the Vice-Presidency by President Joseph P. Kennedy, Junior, in May 1963 upon the assassination of Stuart Symington. Vice-President Gore ran for the 1964 Democratic presidential nomination, but lost it to Senator Barry Goldwater.

Al Gore, Clinton's veep in real life, worked as an infantryman and field reporter during the Russo-Chinese War. He was wounded twice by enemy fire and received the Purple Heart twice. In 1973, he is working as a report for the Nashville Star and preparing to run for Congress in 1974 as a conservative Democrat. The 26-year old reporter is expected to easily win his father's old congressional seat, TN-4.

Did Gore Senior return to the Senate, or did he retire?

And I find it interesting that Gore Junior is a conservative Democrat. The Gores were always quite liberal, especially as Southern Democrats go.

[PBrunsel]

Vice-President Gore retired after he lost the 1964 nomination. I would guess he returned to being a lawyer.

As for the Gore's being conservatives, the Gore's aren't Thurmonds or anything, but the two Gore's are for state's rights and are hawks on the deficit and spending.

[Хahar 🤔]

What about socially?

[HappyWarrior]

I'm sure these are stating to get annoying by now but what party has Bill Clinton joined?(And is he still in a relationship with Hillary?)

[PBrunsel]

HappyWarrior,

In a post in 1970 I had Bill Clinton, a Republican from Arkansas, meet Hillary Rodham, a Democrat of Illinois, at the Yale Law School Library. The two had a nice converation but were far too different from one another to consider dating.

Bill Clinton is quite sick of Arkansas and its conservative politics. He hopes to move to New York or California to practice law. Hillary Rodham likes Illinois very much and intends on being its first woman governor.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

What is John Warner doing at this time?

[PBrunsel]

I will try to answer all questions in due time in the timeline. As for George Phillies, saddly I know little of that Libertarian presidential hopeful. The fates of Dr. Paul and John Warner will be shown in time.

[Hash]

Who is President of France by this time?

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Continuing on the what is, yada-yada doing at this time, I'll ask PBrunsel some questions of my own.

Firstly what is George McGovern doing in this TL? I'd assume he'd be a member of the GOP.

And secondly, who are potential candidates for the 1976 Presidential Election? Even though it's 1973 in the Timeline?

[PBrunsel]

Rocky,

George McGovern is a Republican Senator from South Dakota. He is a favorite of Majority Leader Humphrey and a champion of renewable and alternative energy research.

As for 1976 Presidentiao candidates, I don't really know. I'll have to see what shapes up. I could wager on Congressman John Anderson, Senator Charles Percy, former Governor Rockefeller, Governor Robert Ray, and Congressman Mo Udall being potential GOP candidates.

[Хahar 🤔]

How would you rank the post-1920 Presidents?

[PBrunsel]

Xahar,

That's a tough question for me to answer. I have my biases (Herbert Hoover most of all), but I'll try to rank them as fairly as I could. Then maybe someone else could rank them too to get some ballance.

1. Herbert Hoover
2. Joseph Kennedy, Jr.
3. Thomas Dewey
4. Cordell Hull
5. Richard Nixon
6. Douglas MacArthur
7. Ernest MacFarland
8. James M. Cox

I guess that's how I would rank them. None have really been "failures".

[HappyWarrior]

I would divide them into three catagories, great, mediocre, and failures.

Great:Hoover, Kennedy, Hull

Mediocre:Nixon, MacArthur, Dewey

Failures: MacFarland, Cox

[The Hack Hater]

This TL's great! When will we get another update?

[Hash]

Who is President of France by this time?