Final Farewell Speech

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Dear Mideasterners,

I would like to thank you one last time for your support these past few months.  At 1:00 P.M. today, I will no longer be your Governor, but I have full faith that HappyWarrior will lead this Region in a direction that will be beneficial to all of you.

I wish Lt. Governor Hashemite the best of luck during his A.G. Senate Confirmation hearing.

I would also like to wish Governor Polnut good luck on his Presidential campaign.

Finally, I encourage all of you who have not yet voted on any of the 3 currently proposed amendments to do so as soon as possible.  Democracy is what founded this nation, and it is your duty to vote.

I hope that I will have the privilege to serve you again in the future.

Good night, and good luck,
Inks.LWC
Governor of the Mideast!

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Dear Mideasterners,

I would like to thank you one last time for your support these past few months.  At 1:00 P.M. today, I will no longer be your Governor, but I have full faith that HappyWarrior will lead this Region in a direction that will be beneficial to all of you.

I wish Lt. Governor Hashemite the best of luck during his A.G. Senate Confirmation hearing.

I would also like to wish Governor Polnut good luck on his Presidential campaign.

Finally, I encourage all of you who have not yet voted on any of the 3 currently proposed amendments to do so as soon as possible.  Democracy is what founded this nation, and it is your duty to vote.

I hope that I will have the privilege to serve you again in the future.

Good night, and good luck,
Inks.LWC
Governor of the Mideast!

12 pm, not 1;)

Eastern Standard Time - we're running on Eastern Daylight Time.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I might have better things to say to you right now if you hadn't sent me a PM asking me to consider invalidating my own vote in the End of Districts Amendment voting booth.

OK - I sent that PM to everybody.  It's just good old healthy lobbying.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Wasn't this the kid whining about Al editing/deleting his vote?

That was illegal.  How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Wasn't this the kid whining about Al editing/deleting his vote?

That was illegal.  How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

You told someone to go back into the voting booth and deliberately invalidate his vote...

No - I said that I asked all people who had already voted to reconsider their vote, and if they they decided that they really don't like the amendment, after reading all of the arguments against it, that they should at least invalidate their vote so that they aren't supporting something they really don't support.

You didn't get the message, so don't tell me what I told someone.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Wasn't this the kid whining about Al editing/deleting his vote?

That was illegal.  How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

You told someone to go back into the voting booth and deliberately invalidate his vote...

No - I said that I asked all people who had already voted to reconsider their vote, and if they they decided that they really don't like the amendment, after reading all of the arguments against it, that they should at least invalidate their vote so that they aren't supporting something they really don't support.

You didn't get the message, so don't tell me what I told someone.

yeah, You told someone to go back into the voting booth and deliberately invalidate his vote.

If they feel like they voted the wrong way on the amendment.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

A vote is private. You don't tell people how to vote or even less to go back and change it because you didn't like their vote. That's Soviet way.

I didn't tell people - I asked.  And voting is public.  It used to be private, but we got rid of that.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Amusing

At least what I did was legal.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Oh this is just rich. Very Amusing.

First off, it's okay to contact people via PM and ask them to come out and vote, and to vote for what you support, I'm fine with that and I've done that in several campaigns over the years. Telling people to go back and invalidate their votes because they didn't vote the way you wanted? Now that's pretty damn close to voter intimidation. We have a public voting system because a secret voting system was just too unwieldy to introduce and it took the fun out of live, real-time results for the election. We do not have them so people can go around soliciting voters to invalidate their votes because they didn't vote the right way. Some people have done this in the past, if they did consider that they had voted wrongly, however this is a personal, and quite controversial, choice and is not one that you should be openly encouraging people to do.

I didn't tell anybody - here's the PM:

"I urge all of you, if you have not already voted.  If you have voted, I ask that you think over your decision, and if you decide that you voted in a way that you now wish you had not, I ask that you edit your vote, and at least invalidate it, so that this amendment won't pass."

How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

You weren't lobbying for a vote, you were lobbying for someone to commit an act which is technically illegal. I don't know about how the common law rules on conspiracy apply in the U.S. (and so by implication in Atlasia) so I can't say for sure whether or not your action could be construed as criminal/illegal in nature.

Technically, it's not illegal, it just invalidates your vote.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

You weren't lobbying for a vote, you were lobbying for someone to commit an act which is technically illegal. I don't know about how the common law rules on conspiracy apply in the U.S. (and so by implication in Atlasia) so I can't say for sure whether or not your action could be construed as criminal/illegal in nature.

Technically, it's not illegal, it just invalidates your vote.

If the act of editting one's ballot isn't illegal, then how do you usually describe actions which are disallowed by law and carry a sanction or penalty?

In America, if somebody votes for Al Gore and George Bush, they're vote is invalidated, but it's not illegal.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

In America, if somebody votes for Al Gore and George Bush, they're vote is invalidated, but it's not illegal.

This isn't America, but whatever, dude.  Just learn to accept your hypocrisy for whining about Al's shenanigans and then encouraging people to do the same thing.  (One of those people being Al himself, hilariously enough.)

It'd different with Al - I never encouraged anybody to avoid getting caught.  In fact, I'd have invalidated anybody's vote if they deleted it and switched to NAY.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

How is lobbying for a vote illegal.

You weren't lobbying for a vote, you were lobbying for someone to commit an act which is technically illegal. I don't know about how the common law rules on conspiracy apply in the U.S. (and so by implication in Atlasia) so I can't say for sure whether or not your action could be construed as criminal/illegal in nature.

Technically, it's not illegal, it just invalidates your vote.

If the act of editting one's ballot isn't illegal, then how do you usually describe actions which are disallowed by law and carry a sanction or penalty?

In America, if somebody votes for Al Gore and George Bush, they're vote is invalidated, but it's not illegal.

Bad analogy. It's actually more like someone voting on election day, and then they decide later in they day to change their vote, so they go and take it out of the ballot box and put a new one in.

Which definately is a crime, by the way.

No - I'm just asking that they take it out of the ballot.  What Al did was put a new one in.