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« on: September 29, 2007, 10:06:51 PM »

What's with all the Republicans becoming self-parodies lately? First the "I don't hate the Mormon, but they won't make good presidents" comments, then "I admire the Islam", and then that story where he can't get his religion straight.
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GOP presidential candidate John McCain says America is better off with a Christian President and he doesn't want a Muslim in the Oval Office.

"I admire the Islam. There's a lot of good principles in it," he said. "But I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith."

In a wide-ranging interview about religion and faith with the Web site Beliefnet, McCain said he wouldn't "rule out under any circumstance" someone who wasn't Christian, but said, "I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to lead."

A Mormon such as rival candidate Mitt Romney, he said, would be okay.

"The Mormon religion is a religion that I don't share, but I respect.

"More importantly, I've known so many people of the Mormon faith who have been so magnificent," he said.

McCain later clarified his remarks, saying, "I would vote for a Muslim if he or she was the candidate best able to lead the country and to defend our political values."

A Muslim rights group ripped the Arizona Republican's remarks.

"That kind of attitude goes against the American tradition of religious pluralism and inclusion," said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

He urged McCain to "clarify his remarks" and "stress his acceptance of political candidates of any faith."

The Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish advocacy group, could not be reached for comment because its offices were closed for the Sukkoth holiday.

In the interview, the senator also said the "Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation."

There is no mention of God, Jesus or Christ in that entirely secular document.

The interview, which included the revelation that he's talking to his pastor about undergoing a full-immersion baptism after the campaign, sent Beliefnet's irreverent "God-o-meter" spinning.

"How can the religious right hate this guy?" the site asked.

Beliefnet columnist David Kuo said McCain was "pandering to what he thinks the Christian conservative community wants to hear" and predicted he "will have a lot of explaining to do about this interview."

The remarks came as he was starting to show gains in the polls.

McCain alienated evangelical voters in 2000 when he branded the Revs. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/29/2007-09-29_mccain_no_muslim_president_us_better_wit.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 10:12:36 PM »

Disgusting. McCain a mainstream conservative proves his bigotry.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 10:14:17 PM »

Personally, unlike McCain who prefers those grounded in his faith, I would prefer someone who was grounded in REALITY.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 10:14:25 PM »

Hahaha, f**king idiot.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 10:19:21 PM »

Personally, unlike McCain who prefers those grounded in his faith, I would prefer someone who was grounded in REALITY.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 10:22:22 PM »

Whoo boy.

It doesn't seem like a Muslim candidate would do very well, according to that standard.
I admire the Islam. There's a lot of good principles in it. I think one of the great tragedies of the 21st century is that these forces of evil have perverted what's basically an honorable religion. But, no, I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles.... personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith. But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is Muslim would not make a good president. I don't say that we would rule out under any circumstances someone of a different faith. I just would--I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to lead.

A recent poll found that 55 percent of Americans believe the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation. What do you think?
I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation. But I say that in the broadest sense. The lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door doesn't say, “I only welcome Christians.” We welcome the poor, the tired, the huddled masses. But when they come here they know that they are in a nation founded on Christian principles.

Have you ever prayed with President Bush?
No, I've never been asked to do so.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2007, 10:23:54 PM »
« Edited: September 30, 2007, 03:42:50 PM by Bizarre Love Triangle »

Personally, unlike McCain who prefers those grounded in his faith, I would prefer someone who was grounded in REALITY.
Silly liberals (re: sane people), there you go again with your "facts" and "reality." Haven't you figured out that's not the way the world really works anymore?
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 10:25:16 PM »

What is with conservatives and generating and endless stream of lulz and amusement through gaffes this year?
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 10:26:03 PM »

Personally, unlike McCain who prefers those grounded in his faith, I would prefer someone who was grounded in REALITY.

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Thank you for posting that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 10:33:27 PM »

McCain really wants to be the candidate of the religious right, doesn't he?
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 12:53:51 PM »


Nice to see that all his time hangin' with Dubya has paid off.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2007, 01:02:56 PM »

This is why I knew McCain would never make it. Been saying it forever. He is just filled with gaffes like these.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 01:18:13 PM »

for once, i agree with mccain.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 03:11:08 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2007, 03:28:05 PM »

"I admire the Islam"

First he's a joke, and second he can't even construct a correct phrase.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 04:07:14 PM »

Well, if the final ballot came down to McCain and Keith Ellison, I have to say that I'd be voting for McCain.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 05:43:11 PM »

Well, if the final ballot came down to McCain and Keith Ellison, I have to say that I'd be voting for McCain.

Speak for yourself.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 06:45:19 PM »

He is just trying to get a little traction with the wing nuts.
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 06:46:51 PM »

Well, if the final ballot came down to McCain and Keith Ellison, I have to say that I'd be voting for McCain.

Speak for yourself.

I thought that when I said "I'd be voting for McCain," I was speaking for myself.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2007, 09:42:21 PM »

Well, if the final ballot came down to McCain and Keith Ellison, I have to say that I'd be voting for McCain.

Speak for yourself.

I thought that when I said "I'd be voting for McCain," I was speaking for myself.

It is a common phrase used to express disagreement.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2007, 09:43:54 PM »

Ellison is a major freedom fighter.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2007, 08:10:40 AM »

Yes. He opposes the cause of freedom so he is a literal freedom fighter.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2007, 01:18:28 PM »

Am I the only one who is not terribly upset with someone adding an extra unnecessary "the" to a sentence?

I can't say the substance of what he said was very controversial or odd. I would expect that those sentiments are held by a lot of people in America.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »

Yes. He opposes the cause of freedom so he is a literal freedom fighter.

How so?
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2007, 07:08:32 PM »

I used to find McCain's stupidity amusing (Bomb bomb bomb Iran was funny.) Now it's just sad. What exactly is he trying to do? Court the religious right? Isn't that what caused him to be the joke now that he wasn't in 2000?
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