Extradition Bill [Passed]

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I motion to for an amendment to change the wording to "...where he or she may receive cruel and unusual punishment for that crime."

I cannot support this unless you specifically define cruel and unusual punishment to include the death penalty.  Otherwise you're going to ruin the purpose of this bill.  Cruel and unusual punishment (i.e. torture) for foreign-based prisoners is covered in another bill of mine that should be on the floor soon anyway.

Does Atlasia currently have the death penalty?  Or, at least, regions therein?

It has been abolished in the Pacific, Midwest, and Mideast Regions, as well as by the federal government.  It is not officially abolished in the Southeast, but there are no crimes in statute that can be punished capitally.  The Northeast Region still has it.

The only way someone can still be executed, outside the Northeast Region, is for a foreign person to be extradited to a more regressive country which still has it.  Hence the purpose of this bill.

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That is correct, the Northeast still has the death penalty.

And the last region to set a minimum wage.  Pretty shocking considering the voter make-up.

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but since Atlasia still has the death penalty, it seems hypocritical at the very least to refuse to extradite criminals to their home country because said country has the death penalty, too.

Not really.  The federal government should take as strong a stance against executions as possible.  Just because some regions choose to be repressive backwaters doesn't mean that the Atlasian government should be sending people over to third world hellholes to be executed.

As a side note, this sort of extradition policy would be a big public relations plus for Atlasia looking to rebuild common ground with allies like Canada and the European Union.

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I strongly object to the Northeast being called a backwater and/or a third world hellhole.

I didn't call it a third world hellhole.

From what I hear, we "ain't no superpower," so what does that kind of thing matter?

I don't see what that has to do with looking good in the international community.

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Nope.  I was referring to actual third  world countries.

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It really can't be read that way in context, but if you want to back away from the statement, that's fine by me.

The first part of the sentence refers to any area of Atlasia which retains executions as a repressive backwater; the second part of the sentence says that this is not a valid reason to continue extraditing people to third world countries where they will be executed.

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Including yourself, Verily, Brandon, Earl, and myself, we've got a Repressive Backwater voting bloc here in the Senate!  Hooray.

Defend killing your own citizens in peacetime if you want.

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Nay.

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I believe the federal government, not the Northeast, would be in control of the extradition process, so the Northeast's policy on executions would not be relevant.

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I believe the federal government, not the Northeast, would be in control of the extradition process, so the Northeast's policy on executions would not be relevant.

FWIW, the Northeast is likely to have banned capital punishment by this time next month.

Let's hope so.  That would be wonderful news.

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Nay

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aye

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With 6 votes in favor

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