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« on: October 04, 2007, 07:16:48 AM »

DURHAM, N.H. -- A new poll shows that Democrat Jeanne Shaheen has a solid lead over incumbent Republican Sen. John Sununu in the race for his senate seat.

The poll, conducted the University of New Hampshire for WMUR and CNN, shows Shaheen with 54 percent of the vote, compared to Sununu's 38 percent. Those numbers are unchanged from a July poll taken before Shaheen entered the race.

The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent.

Sununu defeated Shaheen in the general election in 2002, 51-46 percent, but he has been hurt by public opinion of the war in Iraq. The percentage of residents with a favorable opinion of Sununu dropped to 40 percent, while the percentage with an unfavorable opinion rose to 37 percent, giving him a net favorability rating of 3 percent, the lowest since he was elected.

Shaheen's favorabilty rating, meanwhile, has remained steady. The poll shows that 56 percent of residents have a favorable opinion of her, compared to 25 percent with an unfavorable opinion -- a favorability rating of 31 percent.

Before Shaheen faces Sununu, she will have to get past Democrat Jay Buckey. Two other Democratic challengers dropped out of the race when Shaheen entered, but Buckey said he will fight for the nomination.

http://www.wptz.com/wnne/14263668/detail.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 03:03:07 PM »

Good, if true.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 03:05:53 PM »

Whatever. I hope she wins... I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 03:13:33 PM »

Whatever. I hope she wins... I guess.

Meh. She's probably the strongest candidate politically, but Democrats could do much better in terms of ideology
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 03:23:58 PM »

Whatever. I hope she wins... I guess.

Meh. She's probably the strongest candidate politically, but Democrats could do much better in terms of ideology

Correct. We should only run people who support invading random middle eastern countries in the deep South.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 03:25:06 PM »

Meh. She's probably the strongest candidate politically, but Democrats could do much better in terms of ideology

I don't know all the much about her (I was in high school and college when she was governor), but from what I know she is a fairly moderate Democrat. She is pretty liberal on social issues, and centrist on economic issues.

Hopefully we can run a more progressive candidate against Judd Gregg in 2010.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 03:35:12 PM »

Meh. She's probably the strongest candidate politically, but Democrats could do much better in terms of ideology

I don't know all the much about her (I was in high school and college when she was governor), but from what I know she is a fairly moderate Democrat. She is pretty liberal on social issues, and centrist on economic issues.

Hopefully we can run a more progressive candidate against Judd Gregg in 2010.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Iraq War. I don't really care about meaningless one dimensional terms such as "progressive," "moderate," and whatnot, but it's a bit ridiculous that Shaheen will probably win because of a war she initially supported not because of ideological agreement with neoconservatives, but because of political opportunism. She's just another worthless politician who'll toe whatever the line the Democratic leadership/public opinion polls tell her to.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 03:35:37 PM »

Her pro war stance is what bothers me most considering that she is running for a U.S. Senate seat.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 03:36:21 PM »

Meh. She's probably the strongest candidate politically, but Democrats could do much better in terms of ideology

I don't know all the much about her (I was in high school and college when she was governor), but from what I know she is a fairly moderate Democrat. She is pretty liberal on social issues, and centrist on economic issues.

Hopefully we can run a more progressive candidate against Judd Gregg in 2010.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Iraq War. I don't really care about meaningless one dimensional terms such as "progressive," "moderate," and whatnot, but it's a bit ridiculous that Shaheen will probably win because of a war she initially supported not because of ideological agreement with neoconservatives, but because of political opportunism. She's just another worthless politician who'll toe whatever the line the Democratic leadership/public opinion polls tell her to.

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 03:37:28 PM »

I doubt she'll be running pro-war now. That wouldn't even make sense from an electoral standpoint.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 03:46:24 PM »

She's very anti-Iraq War now, but she was a supporter in 2002. She's not the most principled politician around.

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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 04:03:56 PM »

She's very anti-Iraq War now, but she was a supporter in 2002. She's not the most principled politician around.



Is she Edwards anti-Iraq or Clinton anti-Iraq?
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2007, 04:09:32 PM »

She's very anti-Iraq War now, but she was a supporter in 2002. She's not the most principled politician around.



Is she Edwards anti-Iraq or Clinton anti-Iraq?

What's the difference between the two? Edwards has apologized for his vote because he figures it will help him in the polls while Clinton has refused to apologize because she figures it'll hurt her. Both are probably correct. Edwards also has the luxury of exerting stronger rhetoric because he doesn't have to back it with any votes or actions. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2007, 04:16:56 PM »

Is she Edwards anti-Iraq or Clinton anti-Iraq?

No idea. We'll find out when she starts campaigning.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 05:00:41 PM »

Is she Edwards anti-Iraq or Clinton anti-Iraq?

No idea. We'll find out when she starts campaigning.

I'm guessing Clinton.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 05:32:00 PM »

She's very anti-Iraq War now, but she was a supporter in 2002. She's not the most principled politician around.

Well, that's pretty much where the entire country is.  Former Iraq War supporters.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 10:31:15 PM »

She's very anti-Iraq War now, but she was a supporter in 2002. She's not the most principled politician around.

Well, that's pretty much where the entire country is.  Former Iraq War supporters.

I'm not.
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2007, 10:33:51 PM »

i support sununu (normal).

and we really need to oust that patty murray wannabe up in nh.  what the hell is her name?  shea-porter?
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 10:36:53 PM »


If you're behind by 16 points, you don't have the normal position.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 10:39:08 PM »


If you're behind by 16 points, you don't have the normal position.

the election is 13 months away!
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 10:41:30 PM »


If you're behind by 16 points, you don't have the normal position.

the election is 13 months away!

And that's what people said about Santorum when the election was 13 months away.

You've even admitted though you don't really expect Sununu to win, in which case I must ask how supporting him is the "normal" position. Of course you also though supporting Santorum and Blackwell was the "normal" position.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 10:45:53 PM »

obviously sununu, who is a great senator, is in deep trouble.

but it is way too early to be making final predictions.

brtd, you and i both know that the one issue that is killing sununu is iraq.  take that off the table and he wins.

we dont know what is going to happen with iraq between now and nov 2008. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2007, 11:03:30 PM »

obviously sununu, who is a great senator, is in deep trouble.

but it is way too early to be making final predictions.

brtd, you and i both know that the one issue that is killing sununu is iraq.  take that off the table and he wins.

Not necessarily. Sununu is out of touch on a bunch of other issues as well and the situation is not like 2002.

we dont know what is going to happen with iraq between now and nov 2008. 

We do know it's not going to get taken off the table.

And that still doesn't explain why supporting Sununu is the "normal" position.
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 11:07:43 PM »

look, brtd, after extensive travels through the nh, i can assure you it isnt the progressive haven you like to imagine.

it is more like the south minus the black people.  especially if you go north of say manchester and concord.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 11:23:49 PM »

look, brtd, after extensive travels through the nh, i can assure you it isnt the progressive haven you like to imagine.

it is more like the south minus the black people.  especially if you go north of say manchester and concord.

OK, I am completely going to throw out all statistics about it, it's legislature and voting patterns in the past few years, Sununu's margin of victory in 2002 vs. the political climate then and now and just accept that your ancedotal evidence trumps all that. Or not.

You also have yet again yet to explain why supporting Sununu is the "normal" position.
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