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Question: Can a country that bans 'Fahrenheit 9/11' be called a democracy?
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Bandit3 the Worker
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« on: October 10, 2007, 05:14:35 PM »

The answer of course is no.

Yet the media and the Bushists call Kuwait "democratic" even though it banned 'Fahrenheit 9/11'.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 06:56:56 PM »

GRRRR!
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 08:32:18 PM »

Sure they can - democracy isn't necessarily a good thing. The masses can be just as oppressive as any dictator. Fortunately in this country we have certain rights enshrined in our highest law to prevent such things.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 01:02:17 AM »

None of our client states in the Middle East respect 'human rights', nor are they democracies.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 04:09:46 AM »

Kuwait isn't really a democracy. Are women even allowed to vote there?
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 07:23:32 AM »

The answer of course is no.

Yet the media and the Bushists call Kuwait "democratic" even though it banned 'Fahrenheit 9/11'.
There are better reasons to dismiss that American overseas possession from the list of democratic countries. Although this sort of fits my image of Kuwait very well.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 12:07:30 PM »

Kuwait isn't really a democracy. Are women even allowed to vote there?

No, but the media has referred to it as a "democracy" anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 09:18:43 PM »

Sure they can - democracy isn't necessarily a good thing. The masses can be just as oppressive as any dictator. Fortunately in this country we have certain rights enshrined in our highest law to prevent such things.
Indeed. There is a big difference between 'free' and 'democratic', and this is a great example.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 10:24:24 PM »

Kuwait isn't really a democracy. Are women even allowed to vote there?

Yes, but that only became the case about two years ago or so.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 04:37:24 AM »

Yes - movie banning has nothing to do w/ Gov't type.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 04:44:20 AM »

I always kind of thought that a country being a democracy had to do with whether or not the people can go to the polls and elect a new government if they so choose.

The UK has banned Manhunt 2; does that make them not a democracy?
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 09:47:38 AM »

The UK has banned Manhunt 2; does that make them not a democracy?

Well, democracy maybe. But certainly not free.

By very definition, a country that bans it is NOT a free country.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 10:21:21 AM »

The UK has banned Manhunt 2; does that make them not a democracy?

Well, democracy maybe. But certainly not free.

By very definition, a country that bans it is NOT a free country.

Is there such a thing as a 'free country' then? And would it be desirable?

Just about every law impinges on 'freedom' in some way or other, most prominantly in the form of criminal statutes (most of which ban various activites [murder; theft; etc.]). There are certain 'freedoms' which society benefits from being curbed.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2007, 10:23:51 AM »

Is there such a thing as a 'free country' then?

If there's any countries that don't ban Manhunt 2, then it's possible.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2007, 10:33:44 AM »

Is there such a thing as a 'free country' then?

If there's any countries that don't ban Manhunt 2, then it's possible.

I don't foresee many lexicographers out there picking this up as part of their definitions for 'freedom'.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2007, 11:26:50 AM »

Australia bans tons of video games and movies, so what are they?
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2007, 12:50:26 PM »

Australia bans tons of video games and movies, so what are they?

Germany bans virtually everything Nazi-related as well.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2007, 02:50:07 PM »

Is there such a thing as a 'free country' then?

If there's any countries that don't ban Manhunt 2, then it's possible.

I don't foresee many lexicographers out there picking this up as part of their definitions for 'freedom'.

I think you know by my rants by now Jas that Ireland isn't a democracy it's a mediocracy.

Yes Manhunt Two is banned here. No I don't feel banning polluted public discourse in anyway. No I don't think it should have been banned. But there are at least 100 more important things to discuss in Ireland alone today. (The reaction at the news on some sites I used to visit was at times hysterical. Which is often why the word "used to" came into that sentence. In comparsion the word Fascist is treated with the proper meaning it deserves.)

Instead of talking about Fahrenheit 9\11 (and LOL@calling Kuwait a Democracy) and Manhunt let's talk about a more important issue what describes a democracy or not. And that's how much the media sucks.
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2007, 03:37:56 PM »

Is there such a thing as a 'free country' then?

If there's any countries that don't ban Manhunt 2, then it's possible.

Well then you'll love this: the US has not banned Manhunt 2.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2007, 03:41:44 PM »

Well then you'll love this: the US has not banned Manhunt 2.

According to the Wikipedia article, it effectively has. It was something to do with some companies not making AO games for their platform, and the AO being part of the "voluntary" system that the government pressured the industry into imposing.
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2007, 04:47:14 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2007, 04:50:52 PM by Ambulance Romance »

Yes Manhunt Two is banned here. No I don't feel banning polluted public discourse in anyway. No I don't think it should have been banned. But there are at least 100 more important things to discuss in Ireland alone today. (The reaction at the news on some sites I used to visit was at times hysterical. Which is often why the word "used to" came into that sentence. In comparsion the word Fascist is treated with the proper meaning it deserves.)

Wow. See why I don't like Ireland?

So if you visited another country and managed to smuggle a copy of Manhunt 2 back or imported it in an unmarked box, could you then be arrested for owning it?

There's a 100 issues more important than free speech?
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2007, 08:42:09 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2007, 08:46:32 PM by Goa Tse »

What crime would you be guilty of if you are found to have possessed Manhunt 2?  Sedition? Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 01:15:04 AM »

Democracy != Freedom.

If anything, a true democracy leads to less freedom.
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 03:04:30 AM »

Yes Manhunt Two is banned here. No I don't feel banning polluted public discourse in anyway. No I don't think it should have been banned. But there are at least 100 more important things to discuss in Ireland alone today. (The reaction at the news on some sites I used to visit was at times hysterical. Which is often why the word "used to" came into that sentence. In comparsion the word Fascist is treated with the proper meaning it deserves.)

Wow. See why I don't like Ireland?

No, but then I've largely given up trying to follow BRTD logic.

So if you visited another country and managed to smuggle a copy of Manhunt 2 back or imported it in an unmarked box, could you then be arrested for owning it?

Almost certainly not.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2007, 08:44:41 AM »

Well then you'll love this: the US has not banned Manhunt 2.

According to the Wikipedia article, it effectively has. It was something to do with some companies not making AO games for their platform, and the AO being part of the "voluntary" system that the government pressured the industry into imposing.

In other words, it wasn't banned. You CAN buy AO games in the US - retailers don't tend to sell them, sure, but there are places that sell them. Take Two chose not to sell the AO version of this via those sellers because it would not have netted the profits they desired. They instead chose to alter it so it would get an M rating, which it has.
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