Which is worse?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And I'm talking about policies toward alcohol, gambling, strip clubs, pornography, food, etc. here, not the type of Libertarian nuttery they mean when they talk about this sort of thing.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

And I'm talking about policies toward alcohol, gambling, strip clubs, pornography, food, etc. here, not the type of Libertarian nuttery they mean when they talk about this sort of thing.

The problems related to Gambling, Alcohol, etc are societal in origin anyway. Perhaps I'm naive but I'm of the opinion that balanced people do well, 'balanced' things like not constantly binge drinking and if there are alot of ''unbalanced'' people then there is must be something wrong with the social world around them at heart (to keep it simple). Not the law; which is a cultural construction anyway. Which is why prohibition didn't work (and never will)

EDIT: Having re-read the poll I now understand your point. An alcohol corporation does not wish just to liberalize laws in relation to alcohol. It wants to change the law to benefit itself; not the industry - if anything if it can it wants to destroy it's competitors. Anheuser-Busch used it's political influence to become one of the few beers allowed on US army bases. And how is a small independent business meant to keep up with that.

Oh, and Define "policies" anyway?

[Governor PiT]

Authoritariansim is always worse but corporations only want freedom for themselves but there influence generally opposes personal freedom.

[Person Man]

Authoritariansim is always worse but corporations only want freedom for themselves but there influence generally opposes personal freedom.

Gee, I wonder who you will eventually vote for...  I mean, you are across the board against mass-society (government, church, business) ,which isn't necesiarily a bad thing..

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

EDIT: Having re-read the poll I now understand your point. An alcohol corporation does not wish just to liberalize laws in relation to alcohol. It wants to change the law to benefit itself; not the industry - if anything if it can it wants to destroy it's competitors. Anheuser-Busch used it's political influence to become one of the few beers allowed on US army bases. And how is a small independent business meant to keep up with that.

Yes, but you also think it's appalling that strip club owners' donations to Minneapolis City Council campaigns result in the City Council making pro-strip club zoning decisions. And no doubt you would also be appalled by the banking industry's campaign to remove all restrictions on internet gambling.

Oh, and Define "policies" anyway?

Things like banning the advertising of hard liquor on TV, banning internet gambling, and putting in oppressive zoning restrictions against strip clubs.

[Gabu]

Option 3: Being open-minded about issues, becoming educated on them, and then supporting policies that you truly believe will bring about the best result for whatever you consider to be the most important segment of the relevant population.

A foreign concept, I know.

[Alcon]

Option 3: Being open-minded about issues, becoming educated on them, and then supporting policies that you truly believe will bring about the best result for whatever you consider to be the most important segment of the relevant population.

A foreign concept, I know.

You're right.  That's much worse.

damn educated pragmatists

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Option 3: Being open-minded about issues, becoming educated on them, and then supporting policies that you truly believe will bring about the best result for whatever you consider to be the most important segment of the relevant population.

A foreign concept, I know.

That's what I do.

And I wouldn't call it worse than the other two options in this poll.

[Person Man]

What about trying to find what's in the common good while trying to block out private and partial interest by pursuing civic virtue. (The Civic Republican Philosophy)

[Tetro Kornbluth]

EDIT: Having re-read the poll I now understand your point. An alcohol corporation does not wish just to liberalize laws in relation to alcohol. It wants to change the law to benefit itself; not the industry - if anything if it can it wants to destroy it's competitors. Anheuser-Busch used it's political influence to become one of the few beers allowed on US army bases. And how is a small independent business meant to keep up with that.

Yes, but you also think it's appalling that strip club owners' donations to Minneapolis City Council campaigns result in the City Council making pro-strip club zoning decisions. And no doubt you would also be appalled by the banking industry's campaign to remove all restrictions on internet gambling.

Oh, and Define "policies" anyway?

Things like banning the advertising of hard liquor on TV, banning internet gambling, and putting in oppressive zoning restrictions against strip clubs.

What did anything I say have to do with Strip clubs?

(Which is btw shows your hypocrisy in called for relaxed zoning laws while bashing on suburbia all the time)

I agree with Gabu btw.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

EDIT: Having re-read the poll I now understand your point. An alcohol corporation does not wish just to liberalize laws in relation to alcohol. It wants to change the law to benefit itself; not the industry - if anything if it can it wants to destroy it's competitors. Anheuser-Busch used it's political influence to become one of the few beers allowed on US army bases. And how is a small independent business meant to keep up with that.

Yes, but you also think it's appalling that strip club owners' donations to Minneapolis City Council campaigns result in the City Council making pro-strip club zoning decisions. And no doubt you would also be appalled by the banking industry's campaign to remove all restrictions on internet gambling.

Oh, and Define "policies" anyway?

Things like banning the advertising of hard liquor on TV, banning internet gambling, and putting in oppressive zoning restrictions against strip clubs.

What did anything I say have to do with Strip clubs?

(Which is btw shows your hypocrisy in called for relaxed zoning laws while bashing on suburbia all the time)

I agree with Gabu btw.

Earlier you attacked the strip clubs owners' influence on the Minneapolis City Council, but anyway, ignore that part and instead focus on the things like banning hard liquor from advertising and internet gambling. Which Ralph Nader supports. However politicians who take massive contributions from the alcohol, banking and gambling industries that oppose those policies you seem to consider worse.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

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Well Personally if I had my way I would do away with all advertising.. but that's a secondary issue too.

What part of "I don't believe in a corrupt process, even if this corruption leads to things I may support (but then again it often doesn't)" don't you understand?