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« on: August 01, 2004, 03:10:26 am »
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I love starting this one.  I really think Washington will surprise everyone this year.  The GOP GOTV is amazing this time around and the governors race is starting to heat up.  After 20 years of democratic dominance, the people are itching for change.  
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2004, 03:14:38 am »
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I'd say its not probable yet it isn't impossible either for Washington to go GOP. I've always wondered why the home state of Microsoft and Starbucks has seemed to be a fairly solid liberal state for such a long time.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2004, 07:21:43 am »
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I love starting this one.  I really think Washington will surprise everyone this year.  The GOP GOTV is amazing this time around and the governors race is starting to heat up.  After 20 years of democratic dominance, the people are itching for change.  
The poll average in WA is about Kerry +5% to +10% (depending on which polls you care to use and/or how far back you want to go).  Of course, the polls aren't perfect and it's still only August 1st... but my point is, WA isn't really terribly close.  Every one of the factors you mention would have to come up huge in order for Bush to take WA or even make it close.  Possible?  Sure, it's not like Kerry's up by 15% there.  Likely?  No.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2004, 11:55:13 am »
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I disagree, I think Washington will be like Colorado for the Democrats in 04.  An amazing GOTV effort and the governer's race MIGHT be worth 5% together, but it would have to be absolutely-bloody-amazing.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2004, 12:12:00 pm »
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I'd say its not probable yet it isn't impossible either for Washington to go GOP. I've always wondered why the home state of Microsoft and Starbucks has seemed to be a fairly solid liberal state for such a long time.

And home to Boeing not too long ago. Bill Gates is a Democrat, I believe.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2004, 01:37:30 pm »
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I'd say its not probable yet it isn't impossible either for Washington to go GOP. I've always wondered why the home state of Microsoft and Starbucks has seemed to be a fairly solid liberal state for such a long time.

And home to Boeing not too long ago. Bill Gates is a Democrat, I believe.

He gave money to Bush's campiagn... So I'm not too sure about that.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2004, 01:39:44 pm »
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and what makes you think that? all the polls show Kerry with a clear lead. That wasn't true with WV, polls showed the state slipping from Gore from quite awhile until the election.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2004, 01:40:13 pm »
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I'd say its not probable yet it isn't impossible either for Washington to go GOP. I've always wondered why the home state of Microsoft and Starbucks has seemed to be a fairly solid liberal state for such a long time.

And home to Boeing not too long ago. Bill Gates is a Democrat, I believe.
He may once have been one.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2004, 01:46:19 pm »
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West Washington state is like NY and MA. The east part is like ID.
Bush can win in WA only if the elections are not close.
Someone was wandering how comes that Microsoft country is not a Rep one.
That exactly the case all over country: Secular and highly educated people tend more to vote Dem.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2004, 02:40:57 pm »
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That exactly the case all over country: Secular and highly educated people tend more to vote Dem.


So basically those who have been brain washed by their colleges!
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2004, 02:43:01 pm »
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That exactly the case all over country: Secular and highly educated people tend more to vote Dem.


So basically those who have been brain washed by their colleges!


Either that... or maybe different priorities on values.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2004, 02:46:17 pm »
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That exactly the case all over country: Secular and highly educated people tend more to vote Dem.

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So basically those who have been brain washed by their colleges!
Either that... or maybe different priorities on values

Hope you know I was kind of kidding.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2004, 02:56:00 pm »
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this is what conservatives mean when they say "values"

-mysoginy
-hating gays
-being annoying and moralizing about stuff on TV and movies

it's a load of crap.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2004, 04:05:27 pm »
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Governor, maybe Republican.
President, definately Democrat.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2004, 04:19:18 pm »
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Yes Wildcard, I knew (and thanks for fixing my post a bit).

And BRTD, I think the different priorities involve things like family values versus personal freedom.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2004, 04:29:55 pm »
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this is what conservatives mean when they say "values"

-mysoginy
-hating gays
-being annoying and moralizing about stuff on TV and movies

it's a load of crap.

Amen to that!  Don't forget using the Catholic Church as a pawn.  The same people thatv are preaching social justice are giving Rick Santoilet honorary doctorates in that area.  How ironic.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2004, 06:54:54 pm »
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I'd take any wager that Kerry will carry WA by a solid if not huge margin... however with a smaller Nader vote this time around Kerry will proably win it by 4-7%! overall.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2005, 01:21:16 pm »
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another prediction to bump.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 09:40:52 pm »
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another prediction to bump.

Not a horrible one, really.

Gregoire was polling up by a decent margin.

This was a somewhat brave prediction, although it was probably not based on any facts so much as intuition.
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2005, 12:27:57 am »
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Ben's prediction was dead on.
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