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« Reply #125 on: June 04, 2009, 01:52:13 pm »
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Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.
but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg


That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?
oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.
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« Reply #126 on: June 04, 2009, 01:56:14 pm »
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Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.
but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg


That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?
oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.

I never said that it serves as a deterrent.
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« Reply #127 on: June 04, 2009, 02:08:04 pm »
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Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.
but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg


That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?
oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.

I never said that it serves as a deterrent.
i know. I am saying that it is not viewed like one by the criminals and such.
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« Reply #128 on: June 04, 2009, 02:12:22 pm »
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Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.
but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg


That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?
oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.

I never said that it serves as a deterrent.
i know. I am saying that it is not viewed like one by the criminals and such.

Then, why did you create this straw man?
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« Reply #129 on: June 04, 2009, 02:15:38 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.
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« Reply #130 on: June 04, 2009, 02:23:57 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.
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« Reply #131 on: June 04, 2009, 02:34:55 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.
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« Reply #132 on: June 04, 2009, 02:47:34 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
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« Reply #133 on: June 04, 2009, 02:49:48 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.
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« Reply #134 on: June 04, 2009, 03:01:29 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.
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« Reply #135 on: June 04, 2009, 03:03:37 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.
also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.
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« Reply #136 on: June 04, 2009, 03:19:08 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.
also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.
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« Reply #137 on: June 04, 2009, 03:23:07 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.
also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.
well it would increase if you have the death penalty. so basically you want to kill people who do something wrong. "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
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« Reply #138 on: June 04, 2009, 03:28:23 pm »
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tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?
keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.
also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.
well it would increase if you have the death penalty. so basically you want to kill people who do something wrong. "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

What would increase with the death penalty?
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« Reply #139 on: June 04, 2009, 04:34:42 pm »
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N, I do not support it.

And let there be no mistake: anyone who professes to be a great lover of liberty and still upholds this practice is a hypocrite and a charlatan of the most base sort. For, firstly, the death penalty is the ultimate and total realization of the State’s desire to monopolize lethal force; for centuries the State has sought a method by which to buttress its waning power in the face of popular demands for liberty, and for just as long the people have been more than obliging in sacrificing their freedom to it in exchange for the etherealities of security and the feeling of peace with the world. Until such a day comes when the mindless masses are no longer led about by their collective nose at the mere thought of some unfathomable Other cavorting about their yards at night, it is prudent that we dispose of the barbaric penalty so as to preserve some semblance of republicanism as against mob rule.

Likewise, the politicization in the service of a socialistic cultural cause is repugnant to me. If we in this country were more open to absolute freedom - that is, the sort of freedom that would permit a Michael Dukakis to express his antipathy towards the thing without costing him ten states instantaneously - then it would seem quite likely to me that fewer individuals would be reduced to channeling their latent aggressiveness into a murderous outlet. Quite frankly, statistics show that three-fourths of all State-sponsored executions relate back ultimately to the prohibition against narcotics; remove said prohibition and one removes the impetus for murder in a vast majority of cases.

If the drug business were not pushed underground (owing, of course, to the moralistic impulses of the Mediocratic Median, who have always had the political instincts of an ancient race horse in the glue factory), then it is patently obvious that our homicide rate should decline concurrently with the easing of restrictions against the trade, hence obviating the need for the death penalty as a so-called deterrent. This particular form of social engineering is not only harmful, it is downright predatory: it seeks to pit our socially-inveighed morals against our own individual consciences.

But the Big-Government-Conservatives (i.e.Reaganists) who hold the real power down yonder will ultimately have their way -- and who can argue against them? After all, it was the oh-so-liberal Nixon who first declared the War on Drugs, as well as the War on Brown-Skinned Cambodians- and the one ties inextricably into the Other: the Brownies must die so that the pure Lilywhites might preserve. Such is the innate hierarchy of values in the Union of Racially-Socialist Republics (the old Confederacy), and such is its priorities. The raw hatred of a genuinely free-market (a free-market for drugs or for life) runs deep in the swampy heartland of pseudo-patriotism; it is the mucky blood that runs through its ivy-throttled veins.

But what do I know? I might as well go back to my booze-buzz. After all, it's not like any tried-and-true Reaganist quasi-libertarian would ever publicly admit to agreeing with me, for fear that he might splinter his rapidly-decaying Coalition.
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« Reply #140 on: June 05, 2009, 10:24:24 am »
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I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.
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« Reply #141 on: June 05, 2009, 10:50:48 am »
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Yes, though the system needs to be overhauled (D)
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« Reply #142 on: June 05, 2009, 10:57:40 am »
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What a stupid one, I was quickly enchaining things and thus I submit "Yes", while I firmly stand against this. Shame.

Given that I think, that if ever we make some choices in life, we don't have a lot to choose, and given that I think that it's our greatness to welcome someone who did the bad to transform him into someone to make the good, or at least someone better, using his mistakes to understand what had lead him to make this in order to get some teachings for him and for the whole society. Given all of this and plus the fact that I think that giving the death is something that just goes against the only thing through the one we exist, the life, I can just strongly reject death penalty.

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« Reply #143 on: June 05, 2009, 03:22:39 pm »
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I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.

When did I say that the legal system should pander to families?  Did you not read the post where I said that I'm uncomfortable with how enthusiastic DAs are in seeking it?
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« Reply #144 on: June 05, 2009, 03:45:41 pm »
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I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.

When did I say that the legal system should pander to families?  Did you not read the post where I said that I'm uncomfortable with how enthusiastic DAs are in seeking it?

I did read that, but I was responding specifically to the above post. The wording of it.
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« Reply #145 on: June 05, 2009, 04:23:51 pm »
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I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.

When did I say that the legal system should pander to families?  Did you not read the post where I said that I'm uncomfortable with how enthusiastic DAs are in seeking it?

I did read that, but I was responding specifically to the above post. The wording of it.

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« Reply #146 on: June 06, 2009, 06:33:39 am »
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Hell no. It's ineffective, backwards, and unethical.
Isn't life imprisonment enough? I sure as hell don't want to wake up with a sore ass every morning for the rest of my life.
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« Reply #147 on: June 06, 2009, 07:35:51 am »
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Yes. Wholeheartedly
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« Reply #148 on: June 06, 2009, 07:41:41 am »
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Yes. Wholeheartedly

No offense but, luckily people of less than 18 don't vote in reality!

Just because such a comment on such an issue from someone who have a small experience of life is a bit...displaced.
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« Reply #149 on: June 06, 2009, 07:45:32 am »
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Yes. Wholeheartedly

No offense but, luckily people of less than 18 don't vote in reality!

Just because such a comment on such an issue from someone who have a small experience of life is a bit...displaced.
I take no offense ,I get worse ocmments then that.

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