Do you support the Death Penalty

[Magic 8-Ball]

Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.

[Magic 8-Ball]

Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.

but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg

That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?

[Magic 8-Ball]

Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.

but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg

That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?

oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

[Magic 8-Ball]

Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.

but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg

That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?

oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.

I never said that it serves as a deterrent.

[Magic 8-Ball]

Yes, but we shouldn't be as giddy to use it as we are.

but there are less crimes in states in which there is no death penalty.

http://blogs.thinkingtogether.org/hdupre/files/2009/05/murderratesdpndp1.jpg

That's lovely, but how does that relate to DAs being overly enthusiastic about using the death penalty?

oh i was responding to your yes. For the DA part, that is just disturbing.

I'm not sure that I follow your logic.  Why wouldn't states with higher murder rates be more inclined to support the death penalty?

because it is not a deterrent. look at my graph.

I never said that it serves as a deterrent.

i know. I am saying that it is not viewed like one by the criminals and such.

Then, why did you create this straw man?

[Magic 8-Ball]

tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

[Magic 8-Ball]

tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?

[Magic 8-Ball]

tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?

keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.

[Magic 8-Ball]

tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?

keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.

also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

[Magic 8-Ball]

tell me when you actually have a reason for supporting the death penalty.

Serial rape/murder comes to mind.

what if they have the wrong person? It happens.

If DNA linked one guy to multiple rapes or murders, isn't that fairly conclusive?

keep in mind that it might have been consensual and she is just crying rape? it can turn into her word against his and she will win.

So, multiple women are going to band together and cry rape?  I suppose anything is possible, but I find the likelihood to be quite low.  That's why I included the word "serial" in my original answer.

also why would you want to kill a guy painfully?
there are other ways to punish someone.

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

well it would increase if you have the death penalty. so basically you want to kill people who do something wrong. "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

What would increase with the death penalty?

[Magic 8-Ball]

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.

When did I say that the legal system should pander to families?  Did you not read the post where I said that I'm uncomfortable with how enthusiastic DAs are in seeking it?

[Magic 8-Ball]

I don't believe that one can seriously rehabilitate criminals who habitually rape or kill others, and I find this to be a better solution for the victims and their families than free room and board and a gym membership.

The moment the legal system begins to pander to the victims and their families, all hell breaks loose.

When did I say that the legal system should pander to families?  Did you not read the post where I said that I'm uncomfortable with how enthusiastic DAs are in seeking it?

I did read that, but I was responding specifically to the above post. The wording of it.

Fair enough.