MA-SurveyUSA: Clinton ahead by wide margins

[Tender Branson]

Clinton: 58%
McCain: 37%

Clinton: 59%
Giuliani: 36%

Clinton: 65%
Romney: 31%

Clinton: 66%
Thompson: 28%

Clinton: 67%
Paul: 24%

Clinton: 68%
Huckabee: 24%

Gore: 57%
Giuliani: 38%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b939477b-c511-46ae-bc02-8464124c331f

[AndrewTX]

Ahhh, I always love watching Romney fail.

[Mr. Morden]

Considering the bad state of the GOP nationally, McCain trailing Clinton by "only" 21 points in MA is kind of impressive.

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Clinton: 65%
Romney: 31%

Romney should get some sort of award for being down 34 points in his home state.

[CultureKing]

Clinton: 65%
Romney: 31%

Romney should get some sort of award for being down 34 points in his home state.

I completely agree, when was the last time a candidate was down by this much in a general-matchup in their own state?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Those Thompson numbers are hilarious.

[Eraserhead]

Those Thompson numbers are hilarious.

Not nearly as hilarious as Romney's. This is his own state and he does far, far worse than Giuliani and McCain. Pathetic. What the hell would Romney's plan be to win a general election? I don't get it.

[Padfoot]

OMG WTF!!!11!!!!  Y iz this poll so biassed?  Romney is the saveeor of the Nu England GOP!  He will sweep them all!

Seriously people.  It's not that shocking that Romney is doing so terrible here.  Would you really  expect Freudenthal to be ahead in Wyoming if he ran in 2012?  How about Carcieri in RI?  Its not like those states are going to do a sudden about face in national politics just because a former governor is running.  Candidates lose their home states all the time.  It's not that uncommon.

[Smash255]

Those Thompson numbers are hilarious.

Not nearly as hilarious as Romney's. This is his own state and he does far, far worse than Giuliani and McCain. Pathetic. What the hell would Romney's plan be to win a general election? I don't get it.

he won't win nationwide.  As far why he is doing worse in his home state than Rudy & McCain, well deciding to become Mr. Hardcore Conservative in order to compete for the GOP Primary while STILL SERVING as Gov of MA sure as hell didn't help.   

[Gabu]

Candidates lose their home states all the time.  It's not that uncommon.

Actually, it is.  The last presidential candidate to do so before Gore in 2000 was McGovern in 1972.  If we exclude landslide elections where nearly every state goes one way, the last before Gore was Stevenson in 1952 - or, if you consider that a landslide election, the last before Gore was all the way back in 1904, and even that one could be argued as one that shouldn't count since both presidential candidates were from the same state.

Fact is, a presidential candidate losing his own home state in a close election is an extreme anomaly, not the standard.  Even Bryan won Nebraska in 1908, and even Mondale won Minnesota in 1984.

[Meeker]

What's even more uncommon is for a candidate to lose their home state but still win the Presidency. It's happened only twice - Wilson in 1916 and Polk in 1844. So unless the Mittster thinks he's the next Wilson or Polk things aren't looking too good for him.

[Tender Branson]

What's even more uncommon is for a candidate to lose their home state but still win the Presidency. It's happened only twice - Wilson in 1916 and Polk in 1844. So unless the Mittster thinks he's the next Wilson or Polk things aren't looking too good for him.

Romney could very well lose MA but win the Presidency - if he, within a year, overcomes 10-30% deficits in states like MN, OR, MO, OH, PA, IA, NM, FL ...

[Meeker]

What's even more uncommon is for a candidate to lose their home state but still win the Presidency. It's happened only twice - Wilson in 1916 and Polk in 1844. So unless the Mittster thinks he's the next Wilson or Polk things aren't looking too good for him.

Romney could very well lose MA but win the Presidency - if he, within a year, overcomes 10-30% deficits in states like MN, OR, MO, OH, PA, IA, NM, FL ...

There may be a higher chance of Polk or Wilson coming back from the dead and winning than that...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What's even more uncommon is for a candidate to lose their home state but still win the Presidency. It's happened only twice - Wilson in 1916 and Polk in 1844. So unless the Mittster thinks he's the next Wilson or Polk things aren't looking too good for him.

Three times - Gore in 2000.