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Question: Which are you in favour of?
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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2007, 06:49:00 PM »


Well, that went right over your head.

Your argument is that if we can ban polygamy, we should accordingly ban same-sex marriage.  I mentioned oral sex to demonstrate the stupidity of that reasoning.
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2007, 06:50:05 PM »


Well, that went right over your head.

Your argument is that if we can ban polygamy, we should accordingly ban same-sex marriage.  I mentioned oral sex to demonstrate the stupidity of that reasoning.

That's because oral sex has nothing to do with marriage - it's a form of pleasure, and one which I do not consider to be actual sex (defined as a loss of virginity).
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2007, 06:50:34 PM »

I oppose any state recognition of heterosexual or homosexual marraige.  For that reason I voted no recognition.
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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2007, 06:52:11 PM »

That's because oral sex has nothing to do with marriage - it's a form of pleasure, and one which I do not consider to be actual sex (defined as a loss of virginity).

You really don't get it.

I am saying that homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy.  You have not given me any evidence to believe otherwise.
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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2007, 06:52:30 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2007, 06:56:58 PM »

That's because oral sex has nothing to do with marriage - it's a form of pleasure, and one which I do not consider to be actual sex (defined as a loss of virginity).

You really don't get it.

I am saying that homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy.  You have not given me any evidence to believe otherwise.

It has to do with legislating who can marry who.
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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2007, 06:58:04 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2007, 07:01:07 PM »


That isn't politically relevant.  Can you justify that homosexuality is immoral or undesirable with your own thinking?


I am still not seeing the connection between polygamy and homosexuality.  What exactly is the similarity?
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2007, 07:03:17 PM »


That isn't politically relevant.  Can you justify that homosexuality is immoral or undesirable with your own thinking?


I am still not seeing the connection between polygamy and homosexuality.  What exactly is the similarity?

Because as a Christian, I don't think the government should give benifits for sin.

And polygamy - the similarity is that you think that we sould be able to outlaw marrying multiple people, but not marrying people of hte same sex.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2007, 07:06:18 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?
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« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2007, 07:11:13 PM »

Because as a Christian, I don't think the government should give benifits for sin.

The right to see your dying partner in the hospital is not a benefit for sin.

And polygamy - the similarity is that you think that we sould be able to outlaw marrying multiple people, but not marrying people of hte same sex.

No, I support restricting marriage to two people.  You're making arbitrary distinctions again.
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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2007, 07:12:41 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.
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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2007, 07:17:05 PM »

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

You have yet to convince me why we should use the Bible as the standard from which to base our marriage laws.
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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2007, 07:17:50 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?
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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2007, 07:41:12 PM »

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

You have yet to convince me why we should use the Bible as the standard from which to base our marriage laws.

Because we were founded on Biblical (not Christian, but Biblical) principles.
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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2007, 07:42:22 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.
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« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2007, 07:45:05 PM »

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

You have yet to convince me why we should use the Bible as the standard from which to base our marriage laws.

Because we were founded on Biblical (not Christian, but Biblical) principles.

This is, of course, true. It's well known that the Constitution is lifted almost verbatim from Leviticus and the Bill of Rights simply paraphrases the Sermon on the Mount (blessed be those who bear arms; blessed by those who speaketh as they wish; etc...).
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« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2007, 07:47:17 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.
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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2007, 08:15:48 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.

Genesis 19:4-5 in Sodom and Gomorrah
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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2007, 10:06:43 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.

Genesis 19:4-5 in Sodom and Gomorrah

Amen brother.
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« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2007, 10:11:00 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.

Genesis 19:4-5 in Sodom and Gomorrah

The primary sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was supposedly hostility towards guests and beggars, not homosexuality.
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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2007, 10:13:49 PM »

Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.

Genesis 19:4-5 in Sodom and Gomorrah

The primary sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was supposedly hostility towards guests and beggars, not sexual deviance.

And explain to me how God would want to blow up a city just because it was full of grouches. Read the Bible - it unmistakeably refers to gay sex.
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« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2007, 10:33:31 PM »
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Inks where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

I Corinthians 6:9 says that homosexuality is a sin.

That didn't answer my question, I asked where in the bible does it say that marriage is between a man and a women?

Every other good marriage that we see is heterosexual.  All the homosexuals are punished.  The absence of the opposite proves this, kinda like gravity - sure, there's no way to prove it works 100% of the time, but we've never seen it do anything else.

What?

All homosexual marriages/relationships in the Bible were punished.  All of the blessed marriages were between men and women.  So the absence of saying marriage can be between men and men or women and women would imply that it must be heterosexual.

Their was no homosexuals in the bible.

Genesis 19:4-5 in Sodom and Gomorrah

The primary sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was supposedly hostility towards guests and beggars, not sexual deviance.

And explain to me how God would want to blow up a city just because it was full of grouches. Read the Bible - it unmistakeably refers to gay sex.

Actually, It is you who might want to read the Bible. Isiah says the reason Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed was for the lack of social justice. Ezekial (16, 46-51) says it was for the disregard for the poor. Jeremiah (23, 14) says it was for general immorality. So you might want to brush up on your bible study's before you make these statements. 
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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2007, 11:09:11 PM »

Because we were founded on Biblical (not Christian, but Biblical) principles.

Nope.  Do you have any secular reasons to prohibit two people who love each other from getting married?
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« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2007, 11:33:09 PM »

One of the general problems with polygamy is that, in practice, it is seldom a "victimless crime."
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