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« on: November 03, 2007, 09:24:01 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7076670.stm

Remind me why we're allied with this guy?
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2007, 09:34:00 AM »
Your longstanding commitment to the prevention of the spread of democracy and good community relations on the Indian subcontinent? That, after all, is what Pakistan owes its very existence to.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 11:54:17 AM »

because he is a good, pro-western, secular dictator.

and he isnt morally opposed to hooking up the jumper cables to the genitals of any islamist that gets a little unruly.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 12:14:25 PM »
Quote from: you could say what you like but it won't change anything on November 03, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
Your longstanding commitment to the prevention of the spread of democracy and good community relations on the Indian subcontinent? That, after all, is what Pakistan owes its very existence to.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 12:48:20 PM »
The usual condemnations are coming in; I note that the Foreign Office has expressed it's "grave concern" and that the State Department is "deeply disturbed". Strong words for diplomats.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 01:03:54 PM »
« Edited: November 03, 2007, 01:07:12 PM by StateBoiler »
Quote from: WalterMitty on November 03, 2007, 11:54:17 AM

because he is a good, pro-western, secular dictator.

and he isnt morally opposed to hooking up the jumper cables to the genitals of any islamist that gets a little unruly.

I wouldn't say pro-Western, more just he made a decision for self-preservation six years ago toward supporting the Americans' efforts in Afghanistan.

Musharref, Bhutto, and the Taliban. The army, the democrats, and the theocrats. One of these three are going to win. And by win, I don't mean necessarily an election. Who's everyone got?
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 01:34:15 PM »
I wouldn't *identify* the Islamist Parties with the Taliban... and I certainly wouldn't call Bhutto a Democrat. Even though she's the best of that bunch.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 07:29:34 PM »
I can't say I'm surprised Musharref did this. As I saw on the news this morning, Musharref did this not because of on going violence in Pakistan, but because of the legality of his candidacy in the Pakistani Presidential Election. And what was Musharref's first act when he declared Martial Law, he sacked the Chief Justice of the Pakistani Supreme Court.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 07:46:36 PM »
It's to negate the possible constitutional issues that could arise from the court overturning the election results.

If the constitution has been suspended... whoops!
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2007, 08:09:49 PM »

Not ideal, far from it, BUT I'm not oblivious to the bigger picture. Pakistan can not and must not fall into the hands of radical Islamists, who if in control of Pakistan would either engage in terrorism or, at the very least, sponsor it

The West needs Musharaf firmly in control of Pakistan and our security trumps all else

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2007, 08:37:21 PM »
OK - I'm kinda out of the news loop on this one - here's my understanding of the situation - please correct me if I'm wrong:

Musharraf declared emergency rule and suspended the constitution - eliminating power of the Supreme Court to keep the election results from being overturned.

Why would they be overturned?
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 09:03:06 PM »
Some constitutional issue I can't remember, like not technically allowed to stand again I think.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2007, 09:14:04 PM »
Quote from: Attorney General Hashemite on November 03, 2007, 09:03:06 PM
Some constitutional issue I can't remember, like not technically allowed to stand again I think.

Bingo. Your right on the ball there Hashemite.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2007, 05:05:23 AM »
Going completely off topic with the Emergency Rule in Pakistan

I read a really interesting article in a local metropolitan newspaper about Musharref. Musharref stated that Richard Mihous Nixon and Napoleon Bonaparte were his two favourite political leaders. What a deadly combination, that explains things....
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 11:07:01 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2007, 08:42:59 PM »
Quote from: Democratic 'Hawk' on November 03, 2007, 08:09:49 PM

Not ideal, far from it, BUT I'm not oblivious to the bigger picture. Pakistan can not and must not fall into the hands of radical Islamists, who if in control of Pakistan would either engage in terrorism or, at the very least, sponsor it

The West needs Musharaf firmly in control of Pakistan and our security trumps all else

Dave

i agree.

he is the 'least bad' option.

i also think he is best suited to deal with india.  obviously the islamists dont want detente with india.
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2007, 04:50:52 PM »
Pakistan has been suspended from the Commonwealth.
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