Thinking of supporting Ron Paul?

[David S]

If you're thinking of supporting Ron Paul with a contribution, today is the day to do it. So far 17,000 people have pledged to contribute $100 today, Nov 5, to show their support for Ron Paul. So far nearly $2 million has been raised today.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

[Joe Biden 2020]

Ron Paul is someone I definitely will not support under any circumstance.  He scares me, really.  Thankfully, he doesn't have a chance at the nomination.

[Aizen]

lol Ron Paul

[Democratic Hawk]

Ron Paul? Hard to imagine any one more ideologically putrid sitting in the Oval Office, give or take a few. I live in the real world, not some Ivory Tower. Paul would, of course, have my full blessing should he mount a high-profile Libertarian Party candidacy in 2008 on the condition he sap Republican votes

Dave

[The Man From G.O.P.]

No

[Democratic Hawk]

Furthermore, any one who contributes $100 bucks to Ron Paul must have money to burn

Dave

[bullmoose88]

I like Ron Paul, but his supporters scare the caca out of me.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

If I ever get to the end of My Anthropology degree (only starting it now..) I think I'll write my thesis on Ron Paul's supporters. They are a, well, interesting bunch.

[minionofmidas]

If he switches from the Republican to the Democratic race and somehow much to my chagrin wins the nomination, then and only then will I start contemplating supporting him - he's worse than any currently running Democrat (not that great a bunch either) but better than any other currently running Republican.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If he switches from the Republican to the Democratic race and somehow much to my chagrin wins the nomination, then and only then will I start contemplating supporting him - he's worse than any currently running Democrat (not that great a bunch either) but better than any other currently running Republican.

Pretty much in complete agreement. Despite Walter's delusions I'm a die-hard supporter of him.

[afleitch]

No. Though I would support him over Mitt Romney. I'd support an albino bull over Mitt Romney.

[David S]

For those of you who want socialism Ron Paul is not your man. For those who want to continue this idiotic war in Iraq indefinitely Ron Paul is not your man either. But for American voters who  like the idea of peace, freedom and adherence to the fundamental law of the land, he is the only choice.

[Ban my account ffs!]

For those of you who want socialism Ron Paul is not your man. For those who want to continue this idiotic war in Iraq indefinitely Ron Paul is not your man either. But for American voters who  like the idea of peace, freedom and adherence to the fundamental law of the land, he is the only choice.

Ron Paul supports the right of poor people to remain poor!  What a freedom fighter!

[David S]

Furthermore, any one who contributes $100 bucks to Ron Paul must have money to burn

Dave

Are you nuts? $100 is nothing in political campaigns. When it comes to big bucks supporters, those who gave either $2300 or $4600, Hillary tops them all with Obama in close second. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?cycle=2008

Yes I've contributed more money to Ron Paul's campaign than to any other candidate in the past. Yes it hurts for a retired guy with a fixed income to spend as much as I have, but I'm doing it because I believe in it. And I believe Ron Paul is the only candidate who could put America back on its constitutional path.

[David S]

For those of you who want socialism Ron Paul is not your man. For those who want to continue this idiotic war in Iraq indefinitely Ron Paul is not your man either. But for American voters who  like the idea of peace, freedom and adherence to the fundamental law of the land, he is the only choice.

Ron Paul supports the right of poor people to remain poor!  What a freedom fighter!

Ron Paul supports the right of people to keep the fruits of their own labor. Hillary and the other Democrats believe in taking money from people who earned it and giving it to people who didn't earn it. Nice trick to buy votes.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I hope Paul does set a new fundraising record, just because it's better than Romney having the record. However he isn't getting a dime from me (except under the condition that I could buy a lapdance from Ron Paul Girl and she'd donate the money to Paul.)

[2952-0-0]

So we have people here having absolute faith in someone, who, after all, is HUMAN. Do you honestly believe everything he says? After all, he's a politician, and politicians aren't known for being faithful to their word. Besides, if he really stood up to his convictions, wouldn't he not be in the Republican Party? Or does he need the big money and support of the Republican party monkeys of suburban Houston in order to get elected and appear as an independent voice in the Congress? At the very least, if he wants to sell himself as a true independent without any allegiance to anybody but some convictions, he would have disassociated himself from the party that supported the Iraq War, the PATRIOT Act, and the lack of financial discipline. He's had several years to do so, but NO...it's more important to keep your seat in Congress secure rather than risk losing the next election for standing up for your values. Just think about that for a few minutes.

[Democratic Hawk]

If he switches from the Republican to the Democratic race and somehow much to my chagrin wins the nomination, then and only then will I start contemplating supporting him - he's worse than any currently running Democrat (not that great a bunch either) but better than any other currently running Republican.

I'm afraid in the, thankfully, unlikely event of that happening, I'd be having another 1972 moment

Dave

[Hash]

So we have people here having absolute faith in someone, who, after all, is HUMAN. Do you honestly believe everything he says? After all, he's a politician, and politicians aren't known for being faithful to their word. Besides, if he really stood up to his convictions, wouldn't he not be in the Republican Party? Or does he need the big money and support of the Republican party monkeys of suburban Houston in order to get elected and appear as an independent voice in the Congress? At the very least, if he wants to sell himself as a true independent without any allegiance to anybody but some convictions, he would have disassociated himself from the party that supported the Iraq War, the PATRIOT Act, and the lack of financial discipline. He's had several years to do so, but NO...it's more important to keep your seat in Congress secure rather than risk losing the next election for standing up for your values. Just think about that for a few minutes.

[Democratic Hawk]

So we have people here having absolute faith in someone, who, after all, is HUMAN. Do you honestly believe everything he says? After all, he's a politician, and politicians aren't known for being faithful to their word. Besides, if he really stood up to his convictions, wouldn't he not be in the Republican Party? Or does he need the big money and support of the Republican party monkeys of suburban Houston in order to get elected and appear as an independent voice in the Congress? At the very least, if he wants to sell himself as a true independent without any allegiance to anybody but some convictions, he would have disassociated himself from the party that supported the Iraq War, the PATRIOT Act, and the lack of financial discipline. He's had several years to do so, but NO...it's more important to keep your seat in Congress secure rather than risk losing the next election for standing up for your values. Just think about that for a few minutes.

Fair comment

[Democratic Hawk]

Furthermore, any one who contributes $100 bucks to Ron Paul must have money to burn

Dave

Are you nuts? $100 is nothing in political campaigns. When it comes to big bucks supporters, those who gave either $2300 or $4600, Hillary tops them all with Obama in close second. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?cycle=2008

Yes I've contributed more money to Ron Paul's campaign than to any other candidate in the past. Yes it hurts for a retired guy with a fixed income to spend as much as I have, but I'm doing it because I believe in it. And I believe Ron Paul is the only candidate who could put America back on its constitutional path.

No, I ain't nuts but if, hypothetically, I was to give $100 to Paul, well I might as well wipe my backside with it then flush it down the bog . In the interests of humankind, Paul should be incarcerated in one of these:



Dave

[John Dibble]

So we have people here having absolute faith in someone, who, after all, is HUMAN. Do you honestly believe everything he says? After all, he's a politician, and politicians aren't known for being faithful to their word. Besides, if he really stood up to his convictions, wouldn't he not be in the Republican Party? Or does he need the big money and support of the Republican party monkeys of suburban Houston in order to get elected and appear as an independent voice in the Congress? At the very least, if he wants to sell himself as a true independent without any allegiance to anybody but some convictions, he would have disassociated himself from the party that supported the Iraq War, the PATRIOT Act, and the lack of financial discipline. He's had several years to do so, but NO...it's more important to keep your seat in Congress secure rather than risk losing the next election for standing up for your values. Just think about that for a few minutes.

Fair comment

On the flip side, the Libertarians have been adhering to the strategy of adhering completely to their principles since their inception, and just look at the incredible difference they've made.

This unfortunate thing called political reality prevents anyone who wants to make a difference from being 100% principled and actually doing so. If you want to play the game of politics, you have to make compromises. Ron Paul has certainly made compromises, though you must admit he sticks to his principles a hell of a lot more than most politicians, and he certainly doesn't toe the Republican party line.

[CultureKing]

Liberatarians scare me more than probably any other political group in the US right now. If it came down to it I would most likely support a republican candidate (with the exceptions of Tancredo and such) over Ron Paul. I mean seriously who can believe that his policies would lead to anything other than distaster.

OH and for those Ron Paul supporters out there: Tone it DOWN, if you want to appeal to the general public you are going to need to not seem like a bunch of crazies (basically Paul supporters remind me alot of LaRouche supporters).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Liberatarians scare me more than probably any other political group in the US right now.

Because they have so much influence? Even if you consider them to have the worst views, they are nowhere near the most dangerous due to how much success they've had in implementing those views.

[Beet]

Libertarians have very little influence. The trend in our society is toward more and more restrictions, particularly at the level of individual behaviors, and this has continued for several decades now. Some of these reforms, IMO, such as cigarette taxes and drunk driving laws, were positive, but the trend is undeniable.