France General Discussion

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Oh and.

Aime Cesaire, former PPM mayor of Fort-de-France and great poet has died.

http://www.lemonde.fr/carnet/article/2008/04/17/le-poete-aime-cesaire-est-mort_1035299_3382.html

RIP, he was a great man.

I don't really know the man, I can't say, salutation to him.

Anybody is better than Patrick Devedjian for the UMP. I hate him.

You haven't watched French TV after municipals.

Sorry, but, John Franky Coco has became really superior than P Dev (that's how I nickname him), even if this one is enough strong, you should try to look about it...

[Hashemite]

Anybody is better than Patrick Devedjian for the UMP. I hate him.

You haven't watched French TV after municipals.

Sorry, but, John Franky Coco has became really superior than P Dev (that's how I nickname him), even if this one is enough strong, you should try to look about it...

Did you even read what I said? I said that anybody can be better for the UMP than Devedjian; that includes Cope.

I always quite like Cope in fact. In fact, the two major group leaders and good. Ayrault and Cope are both excellent.

[Math]

Tssss, nothing equals our Ségogole. Definitely nothing.

[Hashemite]

Tssss, nothing equals our Ségogole. Definitely nothing.

Please don't ruin my historic week without hearing her voice.

[Hashemite]

Sarkozy falls to 36% popularity, with 72% unhappy. The worse popularity after one year since 1958.

Fillon down 6% to 52%.

[Hashemite]

Le Pen has once again called the gaz chambers in World War II a "detail".

[Math]

He was almost dead - politically and medically.

Now we are talking about him, so he can be really proud : he has reached hi goal.

[Hashemite]

He was almost dead - politically and medically.

Now we are talking about him, so he can be really proud : he has reached hi goal.

Obviously. His party is almost a joke party, it's selling out his HQ; so he needs to make Nazi comments to give him attention.

His daughter condemned the comments IIRC, though.

[Hashemite]

Want to buy car???

Buy Le Pen's own car on EBay.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/EXCLUSIF-Peugeot-605-blindee-de-Jean-Marie-Le-Pen-SV-3-0_W0QQitemZ120255193497QQihZ002QQcategoryZ119748QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Hashemite]

One year of Nicolas Sarkozy. He was elected a year ago today.

Royal made a comment along the lines she wouldn't have been such a bling-bling. Remind me now, who divorced on the night of the general election?

[HardRCafé]

Ségo is cute in that I-can't-believe-this-person-was-a-serious-contender-for-president sort of way.

[Math]

who divorced on the night of the general election?

Hum, I really don't want to defend Royal, but if I remember correctly, she didn't want to annonce her divorce the evening of the legislative election. The interview was spread without her approval.

Ah, and Delanoë is basically candidate for being the next socialist party first secretary.

Perhaps I'll actually vote PS in 2012 for the last time of my life...

[Hashemite]

I like Delanoë, he's sane, he doesn't just whine, he says that the PS needs to propose alternatives; instead of complaining like that other one.

[Hashemite]

The National Assembly has passed 113-10 a popular initiative referendum law, proposed by the NC. Voters may now propose a referendum with the support of 1/5th of MPs and Senators and 1/10th of voters.

They also passed a law imposing a two-consecutive term limit on the President.

[Hashemite]

Notes on party popularity, TNS-Sofres, April 2008

PCF: Negative 54%, Positive 27%
MoDem: Negative 46%, Positive 35%
UMP: Negative 54%, Positive 33%
PS: Positive 45%, Negative 42%
NC: Negative 46%, Positive 17%
FN: Negative 84%, Positive 7%
Greenies: Positive 46%, Negative 39%

[Verily]

Les Verts: the most popular party in France!

[Hashemite]

Les Verts: the most popular party in France!

I'm quite surprised at their popularity level, it must be new, since the last time I checked every party was in the negatives.

[opebo]

I just had the most delicious French meal:

1) pureed vegetable soup
2) eggs mayonaisse with Parma ham (salad)
3) Duck breasts in sauce of tropical fruits, with carrots and potato
4) cream custard with liquor
5) Amaretto

Oh and a glass of house red wine with the dinner. 
Total bill: 460 baht or around $14.

[Hashemite]

A little cartoon...

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Anybody is better than Patrick Devedjian for the UMP. I hate him.

You haven't watched French TV after municipals.

Sorry, but, John Franky Coco has became really superior than P Dev (that's how I nickname him), even if this one is enough strong, you should try to look about it...

Did you even read what I said? I said that anybody can be better for the UMP than Devedjian; that includes Cope.

I always quite like Cope in fact. In fact, the two major group leaders and good. Ayrault and Cope are both excellent.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

An element to go in the sens of what I say concerning the fact that Cope is to me surely the next big opponent to Sarkozy at right, the fact he said a few days ago he wasn't opposite to improve the TV tax, when Sarkozy said he was totally opposite to this.

Then, Ayrault. I don't know him as mayor of Nantes but as leader of PS I just can't bear him. I think he should remember that doing politics is something serious and which concerns the life of peoples, that's not just tactics and words and tactics of words, and I say this also for a very big part of the PS, and first of all to the one who represents it the more to me, François Hollande.

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

Mouhahahahahaah

I love the cartoon!!!

So true!

Where did you find it?

[PGSable]

Now that Sarkozy and Fillon have been in office for over a year:


Presidential approval ratings

Mitterrand was elected in May 1981 with 52% of the vote. In June 1981, his approval rating was 74%. One year later, in June 1982, it was 63% (–11%). In May 1988, when Mitterrand ran for re-election, it was 57%.

Mitterrand was re-elected in May 1988 with 54% of the vote. In June 1988, his approval rating was 63%. One year later, in June 1989, it was 62% (–1%). In May 1995, when Mitterrand retired, it was 34%.

Chirac was elected in May 1995 with 53% of the vote. In June 1995, his approval rating was 64%. One year later, in June 1996, it was 47% (–6%). In May 2002, when Chirac ran for re-election, it was 52%.

Chirac was re-elected in May 2002 with 82% of the vote (last polls had him tied with Jospin, who finished 4% behind Chirac in the first round). In June 2002, his approval rating was 50%. One year later, in June 2003, it was 49% (–1%). In May 2007, when Chirac retired it was 30%.

Sarkozy was elected in May 2007 with 53% of the vote. In June 2007, his approval rating was 62%. One year later, in June 2008, it is 38% (–24%).


Prime minister approval ratings

Mitterrand appointed Mauroy in May 1981. In June 1981, his approval rating was 71%. One year later, in June 1982, it was 55% (–16%). In July 1984, when Mauroy resigned, it was 25%.

Mitterrand appointed Fabius in July 1984. In September 1984, his approval rating was 53%. One year later, in September 1985, it was 47% (–6%). In March 1986, when the right took control of the National Assembly, it was 44%.

Mitterrand appointed Chirac in March 1986. In April 1986, his approval rating was 57%. One year later, in April 1987, it was 44% (–13%). In May 1988, when the left took control of the National Assembly, it was 48%.

Mitterrand appointed Rocard in May 1988. In June 1988, his approval rating was 66%. One year later, in June 1989, it was 65% (–1%). In May 1991, when Rocard resigned, it was 50%.

Mitterrand appointed Cresson in May 1991. In June 1991, her approval rating was 49%. Less than a year later, in April 1992, when Cresson resigned, it was 22% (–27%).

Mitterrand appointed Bérégovoy in April 1992. In May 1992, his approval rating was 54%. Less than a year later, in March 1993, when the right took control of the National Assembly, it was 39% (–15%).

Mitterrand appointed Balladur in March 1993. In April 1993, his approval rating was 73%. One year later, in April 1994, it was 53% (–20%). In May 1995, when Balladur resigned, it was 47%.

Chirac appointed Juppé in May 1995. In June 1995, his approval rating was 65%. One year later, in June 1996, it was 38% (–27%). In May 1997, when the left took control of the National Assembly, it was 28%.

Chirac appointed Jospin in June 1997. In July 1997, his approval rating was 66%. One year later, in June 1998, it was 62% (–4%). In May 2002, when Jospin resigned and the right took control of the National Assembly, it was 40%.

Chirac appointed Raffarin in May 2002. In June 2002, his approval rating was 60%. One year later, in June 2003, it was 45% (–15%). In April 2005, when Raffarin resigned, it was 22%.

Chirac appointed Villepin in May 2005. In June 2005, his approval rating was 39%. One year later, in June 2006, it was 17% (–22%). In April 2007, when Villepin resigned, it was 30%.

Sarkozy appointed Fillon in May 2007. In June 2007, his approval rating was 58%. One year later, in June 2007, it is 45% (–13%).




Sarkozy lost twenty-four points in his first year in office, more than twice as much as any other president ever recorded. Fillon, on the other hand, had been successful so far at distancing himself from the unpopular president.

Data are from Homme-Politique. The approval ratings are from TNS-SOFRES (average of various polling institutes).

[Hashemite]

No real surprises anywhere.

It seems like the quiet style of Fillon seems more popular than the bling-bling hyper-style of the dwarf.

Interesting data, btw (I recommend using the TNS-Sofres website itself, though, their interactive graphs are much better).

[PGSable]

It looks like Chirac is going to boycott the Bastille Day celebration in Paris after Sarkozy invited Bashar al-Assad.

Chirac is a very good friend of the Hariri family, and has lived in one of their apartments since leaving office.

[Hashemite]

Guillaume Peltier, formerly the second-in-command in the MPF (de Villiers' joke party) a rising star within the party (he also 'replaced' Donnedieu de Vabres as leader of the right in Tours in March, with Donnedieu de Vabres retiring), and surely the person who would be given the top position on the MPF list in the Massif Central-Centre EU constituency; has joined the UMP. He was close to Hortefeux, Minister of Immigration, and he probably realized that a fruitful future political careers is better achieved within a major party than a local joke party.

This is bad news for de Villiers. Peltier could've have potentially gotten the MPF out of a total-joke status. But now the party is condemned to sink into joke status even more. Under Hortefeux's wing, he can potentially be a UMP rising star, and a serious contender for deputy, Mayor, maybe MEP in Tours. (Jean Royer's second coming )

Fun fact: This is his fourth party. He was in the FN, MNR, MPF, and now UMP. He'll probably be centrist next and a Communist in ten years