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[Antonio the Sixth]

The first two were published by Marianne some weeks ago.

And I'm quite surprised by Fillon polling worse than Sarko. I always had the imperssion that the media were overrating his "popularity" but not at this point...

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The first two were published by Marianne some weeks ago.

And I'm quite surprised by Fillon polling worse than Sarko. I always had the imperssion that the media were overrating his "popularity" but not at this point...

Well, CSA is a crappy joke pollster, so I wouldn't read too much into their joke polls.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Other news:

Phillipe de Villiers has officially graft black glasses upon him.

Or he became part of naughty agents of The Matrix.

Dunno which one choosing, or something else...

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de Villiers has some eye cancer of some sort. It's pretty rare.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

de Villiers has some eye cancer of some sort. It's pretty rare.

Thanks.

The 1st time I saw it, it was the day after the storm, so I thought, .k, he wanna hide his sadness or something like that, and as each time during the week I saw him with and each time it was to speak about the storm, I thought that it could be too much in the end, then I suspected it could have been a serious reason, wasn't sure though, that wouldn't have been his 1st 'numéro'. Well, if ever he can't quit it anymore, he is really politically dead, not that he was really alive...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Basically, the strom is the only subject he can speak about without necessarily saying something stupid.

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he is really politically dead

Yeah, the Chouan is retreating back to the Bocage more and more. He's done little lobbying for the MPF in the regionals except for his own friends-and-neighbours in Vendée. There's been some grumblings in the (small) MPF federations outside Vendée, from what I've heard.

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http://www.lemouvementpopulaire.fr/personnalites/

Just to note that Besson doesn't have a page, a page which normally includes a list of things he likes and dislikes.

They probably didn't want his "I dislike" list to be "Arabs, immigrants, blacks, darkies" and his "I like" list to be "racists, xenophobes, nativists, collabos, traitors etc"

Also Hortefeux has a page but no list of likes/dislikes... conspiracy!

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

http://www.lemouvementpopulaire.fr/personnalites/

Just to note that Besson doesn't have a page, a page which normally includes a list of things he likes and dislikes.

They probably didn't want his "I dislike" list to be "Arabs, immigrants, blacks, darkies" and his "I like" list to be "racists, xenophobes, nativists, collabos, traitors etc"

Also Hortefeux has a page but no list of likes/dislikes... conspiracy!

lol at this part of the site.

Oh, and lol at the rant too.

Well, Besson seems to be far to be a...hmm...pleasant person, but that's all I think, if ever this was a bit serious.

[big bad fab]

he is really politically dead

Yeah, the Chouan is retreating back to the Bocage more and more. He's done little lobbying for the MPF in the regionals except for his own friends-and-neighbours in Vendée. There's been some grumblings in the (small) MPF federations outside Vendée, from what I've heard.

Please note that Guillaume Peltier, coming from the "efficient" far-right or this zone between far-right and harsh right which was well represented in Radio Courtoisie, and who was Villiers' right (no joke) hand for 2 or 3 years, has left him last year and is now indirectly "used" by Copé.
Peltier was very active and, without him and with his health problems, Villiers seems indeed to just turn back to his baronny.

[Tender Branson]

I´ve heard that the FN is now copying the Swiss Minaret poster and that they included an Algerian flag (which of course is causing protest from the Algerians):



http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/news/3343.html

[Хahar 🤔]

Jeunesse and Le Pen in the same sentence?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I´ve heard that the FN is now copying the Swiss Minaret poster and that they included an Algerian flag (which of course is causing protest from the Algerians):



http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/news/3343.html

Shameful.

Thanks Sarko, Besson and Hortefeux for having made all this possible.

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Jeunesse and Le Pen in the same sentence?

Youth vote for the FN is quite high.

The SVP is also pissed at the poster.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Jeunesse and Le Pen in the same sentence?

That's precisely the Jeunesse in FN which is able of such things, the old-school ones no more dared.

Jeunesse and Le Pen in the same sentence?

Youth vote for the FN is quite high.

Because abstention vote is very present in youth, yes.

And, about the poster itself, it didn't made noise in nationwide media, actually, it even surprises me given it's a bit of a coup, but it's a poster for regional campaign in PACA, and no noise beyond.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

And, about the poster itself, it didn't made noise in nationwide media, actually, it even surprises me given it's a bit of a coup, but it's a poster for regional campaign in PACA, and no noise beyond.

Oh wait, I just opened my TV, and here it goes, at a big evening talk show 'Le Grand Journal', they speak about it, well, it took time to come, that might be one or two weeks I saw that on the net...

[Antonio the Sixth]

And, about the poster itself, it didn't made noise in nationwide media, actually, it even surprises me given it's a bit of a coup, but it's a poster for regional campaign in PACA, and no noise beyond.

Oh wait, I just opened my TV, and here it goes, at a big evening talk show 'Le Grand Journal', they speak about it, well, it took time to come, that might be one or two weeks I saw that on the net...

It often happens so. Remember, the media took months before "discovering" Frêche's sentence about Fabius...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Jeunesse and Le Pen in the same sentence?

That's precisely the Jeunesse in FN which is able of such things, the old-school ones no more dared.

There has just been Le Pen father on TF1 news, and while he didn't deny this initiative from PACA's FN Youth, he wasn't that much comfortable to defend it, so to say.

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Ifop poll for some pro-life outfit shows that 85% of women are favourable to abortion, with only 7% opposed.

http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1092-1-study_file.pdf

But a majority think there are too many abortions etc.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ifop poll for some pro-life outfit shows that 85% of women are favourable to abortion, with only 7% opposed.

http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1092-1-study_file.pdf

But a majority think there are too many abortions etc.

Glad to see French have remained sane despite the Zemmours and the Villiers.

[big bad fab]

"Sane"... Well...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Ifop poll for some pro-life outfit shows that 85% of women are favourable to abortion, with only 7% opposed.

http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1092-1-study_file.pdf

But a majority think there are too many abortions etc.

Glad to see French have remained sane despite the Zemmours and the Villiers.

PdV never appeared more than a clown except for his small fringe maybe.

There is only one 'Zemmour' in France, and he is very sane, he is just quite conservative and reactionary enough, but all what he says is argued, and well, and the fact that most people aren't able to properly debate with him should make wonder on the force and the state of the views he's opposed to. It is the fact to make him a devil that could create a devil. Too bad he uses his talents in very biased ways sometimes, but that's the game after all, people have to learn the rule to win.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ifop poll for some pro-life outfit shows that 85% of women are favourable to abortion, with only 7% opposed.

http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1092-1-study_file.pdf

But a majority think there are too many abortions etc.

Glad to see French have remained sane despite the Zemmours and the Villiers.

PdV never appeared more than a clown except for his small fringe maybe.

There is only one 'Zemmour' in France, and he is very sane, he is just quite conservative and reactionary enough, but all what he says is argued, and well, and the fact that most people aren't able to properly debate with him should make wonder on the force and the state of the views he's opposed to. It is the fact to make him a devil that could create a devil. Too bad he uses his talents in very biased ways sometimes, but that's the game after all, people have to learn the rule to win.

Right. Indeed freedom of expression requires that we let nutjobs like him express themselves. Fair enough. But what I don't understand is, indeed, why the hell nobody is even able to formulate arguments against theirs and explain to people why what he says is bullsh*t (well, Patrick Pelloux did in Charlie, but it's pretty insignificant).

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Ifop poll for some pro-life outfit shows that 85% of women are favourable to abortion, with only 7% opposed.

http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1092-1-study_file.pdf

But a majority think there are too many abortions etc.

Glad to see French have remained sane despite the Zemmours and the Villiers.

PdV never appeared more than a clown except for his small fringe maybe.

There is only one 'Zemmour' in France, and he is very sane, he is just quite conservative and reactionary enough, but all what he says is argued, and well, and the fact that most people aren't able to properly debate with him should make wonder on the force and the state of the views he's opposed to. It is the fact to make him a devil that could create a devil. Too bad he uses his talents in very biased ways sometimes, but that's the game after all, people have to learn the rule to win.

Right. Indeed freedom of expression requires that we let nutjobs like him express themselves. Fair enough. But what I don't understand is, indeed, why the hell nobody is even able to formulate arguments against theirs and explain to people why what he says is bullsh*t (well, Patrick Pelloux did in Charlie, but it's pretty insignificant).

Well, we just differ on the fact that I don't consider him a nutjob then, he is very sane, exposes things of quality, it's just that he sometimes exposes it in a very biased manner.

You don't serve your cause when you call him a nutjob, more likely the opposite.

[big bad fab]

Thank you, Benoît.
That's what I wanted to say.

Antonio, listen to Zemmour on Histoire, when he takes part in Michel Field's historical debates. You'll see that he's not insane.