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« on: July 23, 2008, 01:32:26 AM »
Left-Radicals, eh? Smiley I like them now.

What next? Referendum?
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 01:39:30 PM »
Quote from: Verily on July 23, 2008, 10:12:47 PM
Quote from: ޒަހަރު) زَهَـرْ) on July 23, 2008, 01:32:26 AM
Left-Radicals, eh? Smiley I like them now.

What next? Referendum?

France has a lot of political parties with names that trace from the era when you had to have "Left", "Radical", "Revolutionary" or something else similar in your name to be elected. The PRG is definitely centrist, and probably my favorite French party.

Oh, yes, I know perfectly well about the history of the Radicals. I don't think they're radical or leftist, thanks to sinistrisme. But they were the only party on the left to support the reforms. The PCF let me down.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 06:39:20 PM »
Le Pen not running? The world is coming to an end.

Why hasn't the LCR been able to capitalize on Besancenot's popularity with at least one MNA?
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 07:10:23 PM »
Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 13, 2008, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: ޒަހަރު) زَهَـرْ) on September 13, 2008, 06:39:20 PM
Why hasn't the LCR been able to capitalize on Besancenot's popularity with at least one MNA?

Firstly, the LCR has absolutely no (absolutely none) ground constituency organization and GOTV effort. The LCR has no party machine on the ground. Also, Besancenot is like Le Pen in that he gets votes from voters that don't vote for the party in a general/EU/local election.

Secondly, even if it did break 15% in one constituency (which is very unlikely) and somehow got into the runoff, a plurality/majority of voters would not vote for a Trot. Just as they wouldn't vote for a fascist. And like with the FN, many of the first round voters wouldn't come out and vote for an LCR candidate that has no chance in the runoff.

Are the various DVG and DVD MNAs members of tiny parties or independents?
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Xahar
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 07:54:29 PM »
Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 13, 2008, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: ޒަހަރު) زَهَـرْ) on September 13, 2008, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 13, 2008, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: ޒަހަރު) زَهَـرْ) on September 13, 2008, 06:39:20 PM
Why hasn't the LCR been able to capitalize on Besancenot's popularity with at least one MNA?

Firstly, the LCR has absolutely no (absolutely none) ground constituency organization and GOTV effort. The LCR has no party machine on the ground. Also, Besancenot is like Le Pen in that he gets votes from voters that don't vote for the party in a general/EU/local election.

Secondly, even if it did break 15% in one constituency (which is very unlikely) and somehow got into the runoff, a plurality/majority of voters would not vote for a Trot. Just as they wouldn't vote for a fascist. And like with the FN, many of the first round voters wouldn't come out and vote for an LCR candidate that has no chance in the runoff.

Are the various DVG and DVD MNAs members of tiny parties or independents?

local party dissidents, a few are local parties that are elected with no PS/UMP opposition.

I'll make a detailed list tomorrow.

Please do.
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Xahar
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2008, 02:16:01 PM »
Isn't DLR part of the UMP?
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 03:15:21 PM »

Ah, I see.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 12:30:40 AM »
Hmm. About time.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 12:40:19 AM »
And the PS takes the Fabien Roy approach.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 10:37:23 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 10:06:08 AM »

I'll assume they did.

Abstaining again? The PS should elect Fabien Roy their leader.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 11:34:57 PM »
Is the NPA supposed to absorb the far-left parties?
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 08:52:15 PM »
Some states here do that. California doesn't. Sad
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2008, 05:34:55 PM »
Will Le Pen be Jean-Marie's successor?
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Xahar
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 07:59:11 PM »
Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on November 17, 2008, 07:46:52 AM
The UMP deputy for Moselle-9 has committed suicide after killing a woman.

When's the by-election?
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 10:06:01 AM »

Why not?
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 04:12:14 PM »

Then what are by-elections for?
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 07:24:03 PM »

Sort of an odd law. What's the reasoning?
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2009, 04:20:47 PM »
CPNT? Why?! Sad
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2009, 04:25:02 PM »
Hachémite veut parler français dans ce sujet.
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2009, 03:20:46 PM »
Non; mon français est horrible. J'use Wiktionnaire. Smiley
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2009, 06:04:58 PM »
IMO, MoDem is simply an instrument in Bayrou's move from right to left.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2009, 10:35:29 PM »
What's going on? I don't regularly access the French news.
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Xahar
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Posts: 41,708
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2009, 07:56:16 PM »
Quote from: Minister of Free Time Hashemite on October 02, 2009, 06:51:24 PM
Urgh. I want Sarkozy to die.

This article says that Sarkozy is considering switching to FPTP in legislative elections. Urgh. Angry

However, this piece of sh**t would be proud.


I was thinking, "Debré", even before I read that last line.
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Xahar
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 02:46:31 AM »
Guess who liked FPTP!

Michel Debré!

The funny thing is that the FN represents the legacy of Tixier-Vignancour more than anything else.
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