As if it Didn't Suck Enough to Live in NJ...

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

[Wakie]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Why not?

[Sam Spade]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Why not?

There are already enough horrible drivers in NJ without giving licenses to 16 year olds.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Haha. One could get a license at 14 and a half where I grew up! I didn't get mine until 15 though.

[bullmoose88]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Why not?

There are already enough horrible drivers in NJ without giving licenses to 16 year olds.

This is the correct answer.  Mr. Spade, no matter where you finish on the curve at the end of the semester, you will receive an A.

Good job.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Why not?

There are already enough horrible drivers in NJ without giving licenses to 16 year olds.

I am more qualified to drive than half of the crazy immigrants in my state

[WalterMitty]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Haha. One could get a license at 14 and a half where I grew up! I didn't get mine until 15 though.

driving in nj is probably slightly more dangerous than driving in north dakota.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Haha. One could get a license at 14 and a half where I grew up! I didn't get mine until 15 though.

driving in nj is probably slightly more dangerous than driving in north dakota.

There are parts of NJ that are more rural than where I lived in ND.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Haha. One could get a license at 14 and a half where I grew up! I didn't get mine until 15 though.

driving in nj is probably slightly more dangerous than driving in north dakota.

There are parts of NJ that are more rural than where I lived in ND.

There are no real "rural" parts of NJ

[StateBoiler]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Why not?

There are already enough horrible drivers in NJ without giving licenses to 16 year olds.

I am more qualified to drive than half of the crazy immigrants in my state

That doesn't give you the right to a license though.

Besides, I wouldn't give a license to a Gordon fan. Shows horrible taste in judgment.

Don't worry, worst drivers in the United States are Ohioans.

[Joe Republic]

Don't worry, worst drivers in the United States are Ohioans.

I guess I'm not really in much of a position to dispute that.

[© tweed]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

NY is 17

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

NY is 17

I hate to call you out on your state but cousin just went through it.  It's 16 for a license to drive to work or school and 16.5 for a full license.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

Haha. One could get a license at 14 and a half where I grew up! I didn't get mine until 15 though.

driving in nj is probably slightly more dangerous than driving in north dakota.

There are parts of NJ that are more rural than where I lived in ND.

There are no real "rural" parts of NJ

Depends on how you define "rural", but it has plenty of farms and redneck areas from what I hear, especially in the south. Also I said "more rural". The city I grew up in is larger than Atlantic City, so if it was in NJ, it would be considered one of the major cities in the state (Vineland is the closest city in NJ to it in population).

[Smash255]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

NY is 17

I hate to call you out on your state but cousin just went through it.  It's 16 for a license to drive to work or school and 16.5 for a full license.

To get a full License in New York, you must be 17, must have passed a road test and must have taken a state sponsored driver's ed course.  You can get a Junior's License at age 16, but their are restrictions depending on the area, such as only able to drive to and from work, time restrictions, etc.  Nowhere in New York State can you get a Full License with no restrictions till your 17, and if you did not take a driver's ed course you must be 18.

[Verily]

As it should be.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think the ND law is fine and should be universal.

-You can get a learner's permit at 14 and can only drive with someone with a license in the front seat of the car with you.
-You must have had your permit for six months and taken a behind-the-wheel course to get a full license before age 16. After 16, you can get your license regardless of how many months you'd had the permit or if you've taken the behind-the-wheel course or not (of course you have to pass the behind-the-wheel test obviously)

[Smash255]

I think the ND law is fine and should be universal.

-You can get a learner's permit at 14 and can only drive with someone with a license in the front seat of the car with you.
-You must have had your permit for six months and taken a behind-the-wheel course to get a full license before age 16. After 16, you can get your license regardless of how many months you'd had the permit or if you've taken the behind-the-wheel course or not (of course you have to pass the behind-the-wheel test obviously)

In the middle of bumblef*** that might work, not in heavily populated, high traffic areas.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found out recently that NJ is the only state in the Union where I am unable to obtain a driver's license (just over 16 and a half).  Damn this state again

NY is 17

I hate to call you out on your state but cousin just went through it.  It's 16 for a license to drive to work or school and 16.5 for a full license.

To get a full License in New York, you must be 17, must have passed a road test and must have taken a state sponsored driver's ed course.  You can get a Junior's License at age 16, but their are restrictions depending on the area, such as only able to drive to and from work, time restrictions, etc.  Nowhere in New York State can you get a Full License with no restrictions till your 17, and if you did not take a driver's ed course you must be 18.

Unrestricted license in NJ is 18.  17 you cannot drive from 12-5 and you can only have one non-family passenger

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think the ND law is fine and should be universal.

-You can get a learner's permit at 14 and can only drive with someone with a license in the front seat of the car with you.
-You must have had your permit for six months and taken a behind-the-wheel course to get a full license before age 16. After 16, you can get your license regardless of how many months you'd had the permit or if you've taken the behind-the-wheel course or not (of course you have to pass the behind-the-wheel test obviously)

In the middle of bumblef*** that might work, not in heavily populated, high traffic areas.

I lived in one of the more heavily populated, high traffic areas though, and there are parts of NY and NJ that are WAY more sparsely populated than where I lived.

[Platypus]

We can get our learner's at 16, probationary at 18, and full at 21. It varies a bit from state to state (the ACT allows probationary licences at 17, and each state has different probationary rules-in Victoria you are allowed to do the full speed limit (unlike NSW, for example), but you must have a 0.00 blood alcohol reading at all times, unlike the ACT, for example.