Opinion of Bobby Sands

[they don't love you like i love you]

A horrible horrible horrible vile piece of human filth who at least did the world a favor and removed his waste of life from the planet. BTW, no one who thinks wearing a Che shirt is wrong should admire this disgusting piece of trash.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Wow. This is odd even for you. Pray tell me, what do you know about Bobby Sands?

Of course, here I stood point that Bobby Sands is of course the very defintion of a horrible person (Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

[they don't love you like i love you]

Wow. This is odd even for you. Pray tell me, what do you know about Bobby Sands?

He was a terrorist who died on a hunger strike.

[afleitch]

(Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

And still he lives. Didn't he and his ilk plan to kill Ken Livingstone in the 80's?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Wow. This is odd even for you. Pray tell me, what do you know about Bobby Sands?

He was a terrorist who died on a hunger strike.

That all? He was an elected MP when he died; this is something which always be taken into account when discussing this. No matter your opinions on the man himself and his ideas.

(Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

And still he lives. Didn't he and his ilk plan to kill Ken Livingstone in the 80's?

Quite possibly; though I admit the North isn't really something I'm interested in, like most of my generation I probably see myself alot closer to places like America, Australia or even (Whisper it) the UK than that other place; force of habit I suppose: I can't remember the last time a non-political non-contraversial news story came out from the North (unless you count the football team beating England )

What Stone did do was this; which is quite simply the most lowest thing I could imagine.

[they don't love you like i love you]

What Stone did do was this; which is quite simply the most lowest thing I could imagine.

The fact that it was a bunch of terrorist sympathizers at a funeral for terrorists is why it doesn't disgust me as much as plenty of other stuff.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

What Stone did do was this; which is quite simply the most lowest thing I could imagine.

The fact that it was a bunch of terrorist sympathizers at a funeral for terrorists is why it doesn't disgust me as much as plenty of other stuff.

Don't you occasionally bitch about Fred Phelps?

That isn't the only thing Stone did btw.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Don't you occasionally bitch about Fred Phelps?

If all Phelps protested was funerals of some hypothetical militant homosexual terrorist group members then he wouldn't bother me so much.

That isn't the only thing Stone did btw.

Oh, yes, I'm not saying he wasn't a bad guy, just not the worst guy in that area during that period of time.

[Willy Woz]

Don't you occasionally bitch about Fred Phelps?

If all Phelps protested was funerals of some hypothetical militant homosexual terrorist group members then he wouldn't bother me so much.

That isn't the only thing Stone did btw.

Oh, yes, I'm not saying he wasn't a bad guy, just not the worst guy in that area during that period of time.

Fred Phelps is an idiot.

Anyway, Sands was a Freedom Fighter against the oppression of the Prods. So what if he went to hell, right?

[afleitch]

Don't you occasionally bitch about Fred Phelps?

If all Phelps protested was funerals of some hypothetical militant homosexual terrorist group members then he wouldn't bother me so much.

That isn't the only thing Stone did btw.

Oh, yes, I'm not saying he wasn't a bad guy, just not the worst guy in that area during that period of time.

Fred Phelps is an idiot.

Anyway, Sands was a Freedom Fighter against the oppression of the Prods. So what if he went to hell, right?

'lol'

[Jake]

Freedom Fighter on balance.

[Beet]

The unfavorable comparison with Che Guevara was absurd. Guevara was in charge of death squads. His victims number in the hundreds, if not thousands. How many people did Bobby Sands kill?

[patrick1]

Huzzah.   BRTD's quarter annual Irish Republican baiting post.  I'm glad I didn't miss this one as I haven't been around for a while. 

Sands and many nationalists were ill treated by the political hierarchy and power structure at for centuries in Ulster, he rebelled, joined a violent organization that for better or worse sought to correct those wrongs, was imprisoned under a special magistrate trial (no jury, special powers act etc) and locked up.  He tried to get political status for his comrades, starved himself for that to no avail and died. 

Stoners' ilk were borne from a system which had a police force who beat the crap out of non violent civil rights marchers' in Derry and Burntollet.  For centuries the Protestant ascendancy had kept the Catholic population out of the best jobs (Harland and Wolff shipyards were exclusionary or the highest levels of the once lucrative linen trade) Throughout "the Troubles" Gov't forces gladly colluded with  UVF, UDA representatives to assassinate members of the nationalist community both nonviolent and violent.  A large reason the Provo's were born as a reaction because the non violent movements like NICRA had failed and were beaten or shot down.
The Provisional IRA, INLA etc  killed many innocent people in their campaigns.  The Loyalist paramilitaries almost exclusively killed non combatants.

Had Sands been a Sandinista he would be in your sig right now so stop your bluster and righteous indignation.

[Willy Woz]

(Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

Yes, Michael Stone was a jackass. What do ya expect from an Ulsterman?

[Јas]

(Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

Yes, Michael Stone was a jackass. What do ya expect from an Ulsterman?

This Ulsterman strenuously objects to your implied slur.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

(Well no actually, that would be Michael Stone actually.)

Yes, Michael Stone was a jackass. What do ya expect from an Ulsterman?

This Ulsterman strenuously objects to your implied slur.

The slur was implied?

[minionofmidas]

Don't you occasionally bitch about Fred Phelps?

If all Phelps protested was funerals of some hypothetical militant homosexual terrorist group members then he wouldn't bother me so much.

If a professional army is not a terrorist group, then what is?