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Dr. Cynic
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 20, 2007, 11:50:40 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 11:47:16 pm
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:45:17 pm
In the words of the late, great Gorilla Monsoon:
"Stick a fork in him, he's done!"
Is this wrestling day on the Altas?
I just saw the one topic with Naitch and Huckabee... Then I quoted a guy, who a majority of fans probably don't remember anyway.
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Eraserhead
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Reply #26 on:
November 21, 2007, 12:19:18 am »
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:50:40 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 11:47:16 pm
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:45:17 pm
In the words of the late, great Gorilla Monsoon:
"Stick a fork in him, he's done!"
Is this wrestling day on the Altas?
I just saw the one topic with Naitch and Huckabee... Then I quoted a guy, who a majority of fans probably don't remember anyway.
I know I do!
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Dr. Cynic
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Reply #27 on:
November 21, 2007, 12:33:03 am »
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 21, 2007, 12:19:18 am
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:50:40 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 11:47:16 pm
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:45:17 pm
In the words of the late, great Gorilla Monsoon:
"Stick a fork in him, he's done!"
Is this wrestling day on the Altas?
I just saw the one topic with Naitch and Huckabee... Then I quoted a guy, who a majority of fans probably don't remember anyway.
I know I do!
Good. But I was three when I started watching, and Gorilla would only be around as an announcer for another four or so years after that... I started watching in 1991, and I dunno how many others my age who watch it that go back that far.
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Eraserhead
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Reply #28 on:
November 21, 2007, 01:00:33 am »
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 21, 2007, 12:33:03 am
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 21, 2007, 12:19:18 am
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:50:40 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 11:47:16 pm
Quote from: Dr. Cynic on November 20, 2007, 11:45:17 pm
In the words of the late, great Gorilla Monsoon:
"Stick a fork in him, he's done!"
Is this wrestling day on the Altas?
I just saw the one topic with Naitch and Huckabee... Then I quoted a guy, who a majority of fans probably don't remember anyway.
I know I do!
Good. But I was three when I started watching, and Gorilla would only be around as an announcer for another four or so years after that... I started watching in 1991, and I dunno how many others my age who watch it that go back that far.
I go back to the late 80s. I don't watch it anymore though.
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Mr. Paleoconservative
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 21, 2007, 03:46:20 am »
My feeling is that unless he pulls off some impressive wins in the Southern and Midwestern primaries he is going to go down much like Connally in 1980 except Thompson had significantly better press combined with momentum going in. His whole candidacy is reliant on Southern/Midwestern victories since he is unlikely to pull better than third place at best in either Iowa or New Hampshire.
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SamInTheSouth
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 21, 2007, 10:01:34 am »
Quote from: ClintonOklahoma on November 20, 2007, 07:11:51 am
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/19/nh.gop.poll/index.html
I'm thinking, and have thought for his entire campaign, that he's done.
I also believe that there is no lock for the Republican nomination, yet. Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney can both win it, and if he gets a big boost from Iowa and South Carolina, Mike Huckabee can still win it. I'm not so sure about John McCain, though I'm not going to rule him out at this point.
The only one I will rule out is Fred Thompson.
Thompson hasn't been trying to win New Hampshire or Iowa. He is throwing his money in South Carolina and Florida. If he starts slumping in those states, then yeah, he is done, but not yet.
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Mr. Morden
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 21, 2007, 10:24:37 am »
Quote from: SamInTheSouth on November 21, 2007, 10:01:34 am
Thompson hasn't been trying to win New Hampshire or Iowa. He is throwing his money in South Carolina and Florida. If he starts slumping in those states, then yeah, he is done, but not yet.
Welcome to the forum. Thompson has indeed been completely ignoring NH, but he has been trying to stay afloat in IA (he's campaigning there today), to at least make a decent showing there. But that hasn't been working. And he's already slumping in SC and FL (much moreso in FL).
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WalterMitty
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Quote from: FREE STRAHA! on November 20, 2007, 02:34:17 pm
LOL, Thompson is behind Paul.
Fred's dead baby, Fred's dead.
i hope they santorumize your hero paul.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 22, 2007, 10:32:24 am »
Thompson has been experiencing an uptick in IA. He's now pulled ahead of Giuliani. He needs to get at least 20% to be semi-credible but anything which can push Giuliani into third place can't be bad for the other candidates.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 22, 2007, 10:40:21 am »
Most likely, yes. If he can´t win SC or FL, he´s finished. And there´s no chance that he´ll win IA or NH, as well as MI or NV. After SC and FL there are only 2-5 southern states on Supertuesday where he has a chance: TN, AL, MO, WV and GA - while AR will likely go to Huckabee. Currently I would give Giuliani and Romney about a 35% chance each to win the nomination, followed by Huckabee with 20% and Thompson, McCain and all others have a combined 10% chance ...
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 22, 2007, 10:49:55 am »
Never assume anything, bearing in mind that at this stage four years ago Kerry looked dead and buried. But then Thompson's campaign never really took off, and I can't see him giving Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, and even McCain and Ron Paul a run for their money. I'd compare his campaign to Lieberman's run in 2004 - high-profile, but ultimately not going anywhere.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Reply #36 on:
November 22, 2007, 01:24:32 pm »
Quote from: WalterMitty on November 21, 2007, 12:25:10 pm
Quote from: FREE STRAHA! on November 20, 2007, 02:34:17 pm
LOL, Thompson is behind Paul.
Fred's dead baby, Fred's dead.
i hope they santorumize your hero paul.
Geez, can you get over this delusion that Paul is my hero and my #1 choice when I'd vote for every single Democrat over him except Hillary? And I wouldn't even vote for him in a Paul v. Hillary v. Bloomberg matchup and possibly not any other one with a decent third party.
Besides, if Paul gets Santorumized....so what? What's the effect? That he won't win the nomination? LOL. That also is why no one will bother, since it's a total waste of time.
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jokerman
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 10:55:24 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 20, 2007, 10:41:25 pm
Thompson has a window to perform well in Iowa and win South Carolina.
Really? This window must be out of my view.
Illegal Immigration. It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans and Huckabee is soft on it.
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MarkWarner08
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 22, 2007, 08:26:11 pm »
Yes, and yes. He has no plausible path to victory. He can't win in Iowa; he won't win New Hampshire and Huckabee will likely outpoll him in South Carolina.
Memo to rich non-campaigners like Jack Davis (failed Democrat in NY-26) and Fred Thompson: It's not the 19th century, you can't campaign from the comfort of your porch.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 23, 2007, 02:15:20 am »
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans
Is there a poll to back that up? I find that odd, I mean, it's IOWA of all places.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 23, 2007, 12:33:31 pm »
Quote from: FREE STRAHA! on November 23, 2007, 02:15:20 am
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans
Is there a poll to back that up? I find that odd, I mean, it's IOWA of all places.
I agree. But then, I just don't get Iowa.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 23, 2007, 12:36:45 pm »
Quote from: FREE STRAHA! on November 23, 2007, 02:15:20 am
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans
Is there a poll to back that up? I find that odd, I mean, it's IOWA of all places.
CNN was talking about recently; they had some poll of their own that said illegal immigration was (by far and away) the most pressing concern of likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers (which is much more plausible than Iowans as a whole, I think). Sorry, no link right now.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 23, 2007, 07:13:40 pm »
Yeah, should have said "Iowa GOP caucus-goers." I'll find the poll at some point.
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SamInTheSouth
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 23, 2007, 11:36:08 pm »
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 10:55:24 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 20, 2007, 10:41:25 pm
Thompson has a window to perform well in Iowa and win South Carolina.
Really? This window must be out of my view.
Illegal Immigration. It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans and Huckabee is soft on it.
Apparently a lot of Iowa Republicans don't know that because Huckabee has moved up to second place in Iowa in the past week.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 25, 2007, 01:19:00 am »
Quote from: SamInTheSouth on November 23, 2007, 11:36:08 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 10:55:24 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 20, 2007, 10:41:25 pm
Thompson has a window to perform well in Iowa and win South Carolina.
Really? This window must be out of my view.
Illegal Immigration. It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans and Huckabee is soft on it.
Apparently a lot of Iowa Republicans don't know that because Huckabee has moved up to second place in Iowa in the past week.
Most Iowans probably don't know
anything
negative about Huckabee. That will change.
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Eraserhead
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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Reply #45 on:
November 25, 2007, 01:44:21 am »
Quote from: Preston on November 25, 2007, 01:19:00 am
Quote from: SamInTheSouth on November 23, 2007, 11:36:08 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 10:55:24 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 20, 2007, 10:41:25 pm
Thompson has a window to perform well in Iowa and win South Carolina.
Really? This window must be out of my view.
Illegal Immigration. It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans and Huckabee is soft on it.
Apparently a lot of Iowa Republicans don't know that because Huckabee has moved up to second place in Iowa in the past week.
Most Iowans probably don't know
anything
negative about Huckabee. That will change.
Not exactly a whole lot of time to change that.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 25, 2007, 09:01:44 pm »
Yes, he's done, what's more, he should never have gotten into the race in the first place.
Thompson should put himself out of his misery and withdraw.
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Re: Is it safe to assume Fred Thompson is done?
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November 25, 2007, 09:03:11 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 25, 2007, 01:44:21 am
Quote from: Preston on November 25, 2007, 01:19:00 am
Quote from: SamInTheSouth on November 23, 2007, 11:36:08 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 22, 2007, 08:22:54 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 20, 2007, 10:55:24 pm
Quote from: Preston on November 20, 2007, 10:41:25 pm
Thompson has a window to perform well in Iowa and win South Carolina.
Really? This window must be out of my view.
Illegal Immigration. It is the most important issue to a plurality of Iowans and Huckabee is soft on it.
Apparently a lot of Iowa Republicans don't know that because Huckabee has moved up to second place in Iowa in the past week.
Most Iowans probably don't know
anything
negative about Huckabee. That will change.
Not exactly a whole lot of time to change that.
There is if Romney runs a series of negative ads about illegal immigration in the last week of the campaign.
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