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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2008, 05:16:00 PM »

Can someone with a better knowledge of Pakistan explain what this means for Musharraf?  Various news outlets are suggesting that it would require 2/3rds of the Parliament to impeach Musharraf, but this article:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3399019.ece

seems to hint that a simple majority of the Parliament could reinstate the ousted Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry, and that "if Mr Chaudhry is re-instated, he is certain to invalidate the President’s re-election".  So is Musharraf toast?

It's not yet clear. It might be.
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« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2008, 06:26:34 PM »

Don't the anti-Musharraf forces, all told, have more than a two-thirds majority anyway? Only the PML (Q) and MQM support him, plus presumably some independents.
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« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2008, 06:36:50 PM »

Don't the anti-Musharraf forces, all told, have more than a two-thirds majority anyway? Only the PML (Q) and MQM support him, plus presumably some independents.

I don't know.  In any case, I would assume that impeachment could be a very messy, drawn out process, whereas reinstating the Supreme Court could be done very quickly.  Not that I know enough about Pakistan to comment intelligently on that.  It just seems like the latter shouldn't take very long.
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« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2008, 08:28:46 PM »

It's not that simple. Actually, don't worry about MQM - their support of Musharraf is non-ideological Smiley. Neither do worry about PML (Q) too much - in the end of a story, they are just a splinter of PML, they can find common ground if they really want Smiley Actually, having PML(N), PPP and, say, ANP work together might be a tougher part of the job.

Now, the reason Musharraf isn't likely to be impeached is different: it's not just a matter of the democratic process. Remember: they will always have to live both with the Army and the religious fundamentalists, and both present non-trivial problems. Now, the Army is easier to deal with: at least, there is some notion of the chain of command. Musharraf isn't  the head of the Army anymore, but he does have some influence there (let's put it this way). Even if he didn't, somebody would: it's not clear that anyone wants to deal with that somebody. Shakh Nawaz once got burnt already - he'd better be careful this time.

In addition, even if there is now a sort of a truth between the PML (N) and PPP, they have always hated each other. Remove Musharraf, and they go at each others throats. It's not clear that they want it - and it's not clear that anyone wants it.  Musharraf still has a role to play (or else, it would have to be played by somebody else).
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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2008, 08:53:28 PM »

102. Hafizabad 1 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
103. Hafizabad 2 PML (Q) hold
104. Gujrat 1 PML (Q) hold
105. Gujrat 2 PPP gain from PML (Q) - here the leader of PML (Q) went down
106. Gujrat 3 PPP hold
107. Gujrat 4 PML (N) gain from PPP
108. M.B. Din 1 PPP gain from PML (Q)
109. M.B. Din 2 PPP hold
110. Sialkot 1 PML (N) hold
111. Sialkot 2 PPP gain from PML (Q)
112. Sialkot 3 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
113. Sialkot 4 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
114. Sialkot 5 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
115. Narowal 1 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
116. Narowal 2 IND gain from PML (Q)
117. Narowal 3? (missing file)
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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2008, 08:57:29 PM »

118. Lahore 1 PML (N) gain from IND
119. Lahore 2 Election postponed
120. Lahore 3 PML (N) hold
121. Lahore 4 PML (N) gain from MMA
122. Lahore 5 ? (missing file)
123. Lahore 6 PML (N) hold
124. Lahore 7 PML (N) gain from PPP
125. Lahore 8 PML (N) gain from PML (Q)
126. Lahore 9 PML (N) new?
127. Lahore 10 PML (N) gain from PAT
128. Lahore 11 PML (N) gain from PPP
129. Lahore 12 PML (N) gain from PPP
130. Lahore 13 PPP hold

wow Lahore!
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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2008, 08:58:58 PM »

Map?
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