European Boundary Commission

[afleitch]

Well not really. But I had an idea to divvy up European nations into UK sized constituencies following the same rules and respect to administrative boundaries etc and hopefully drawing up the seats themselves

One of the tricky things is getting hold of detailed figures on the electorate. While skimming through some nations (Luxembourg was my 'test' nation) it seemed the only option was look at the total population and age related statistics and remove the population below enfranchisement.

I'm currently tabling Belgium with entitlements drawn up for the regions, provinces and arrondisements. Hopefully others will give other countries a shot.

I'll post more soon.

[afleitch]

Only 2 provinces so far.

West Flanders: 12.9

By Arrondissement

Brugge: 3.1
Diksmuide: 0.6
Oostende: 1.7
Roeselare: 1.6
Tielt: 1.0
Kortrijk: 3.2
Ieper: 1.2
Veurne: 0.7

East Flanders: 15.9

By Arrondissement

Gent: 5.8
Oudenaarde: 1.3
Eeklo: 0.9
Aalst: 3.0
Dendermonde: 2.2
Sint Niklaas: 2.6

[Hatman 🍁]

Please post maps.

[Hash]

Not that France has enough with 577 circonscriptions, if we divided them up in UK-size we'd have 1500 Deputies!

[afleitch]

Not that France has enough with 577 circonscriptions, if we divided them up in UK-size we'd have 1500 Deputies!

Why would France, with an electorate similar in size to that of the UK return nearly 3 times the number of parliamentarians if it was divided up UK style?

[Hash]

Because you said dividing it into "uk sized constituencies", which I assumed you meant just dividing it up into tiny parcels of lands with no regards to population.

[afleitch]

Because you said dividing it into "uk sized constituencies", which I assumed you meant just dividing it up into tiny parcels of lands with no regards to population.

But that's not what happens here as constituencies are confined by electoral quotas (just under 70,000 per constituencies in England) with some above or below for demographic, geographical or historical reasons.

[freek]

Interesting idea.

About three years ago, a Dutch magazine did something similar. At that time there was some discussion in the government if the Dutch electoral system should be changed, since D66 was part of it. A proposed law to reform it to a German-style system was retracted after a government crisis a year later.

Anyway, there was also some discussion if the Netherlands should return to the system used until 1918, with 100 single seat constituencies, with a run-off between the top-two. This magazine thought it would be interesting to see how the 2003 election result might have been when the "old" system was used. So they divided the Netherlands in 150 constituencies. With an electore of about 12.3 million, this gives an average size of ~82,000 voters.

[Hatman 🍁]

UK sized means Canada sized, so this will definately be cool. However, I do ask for maps. Otherwise it's just meaningless names numbers. (Lewis, are you listening?)

[minionofmidas]

UK sized means Canada sized, so this will definately be cool. However, I do ask for maps. Otherwise it's just meaningless names numbers. (Lewis, are you listening?)

You be my mapmaker.

[Hatman 🍁]

UK sized means Canada sized, so this will definately be cool. However, I do ask for maps. Otherwise it's just meaningless names numbers. (Lewis, are you listening?)

You be my mapmaker.

That can be arranged, if you give me source maps.

[afleitch]

I'm happy to post maps. However some boundaries are arbitary; i.e one town should have two seats but you cant find smaller administrative units within the town to work with. In that case I'm marking some seats with '2' or '3' until other info becomes avaliable. I should have the whole of the Flemish Region up today.

[Verily]

UK sized means Canada sized, so this will definately be cool. However, I do ask for maps. Otherwise it's just meaningless names numbers. (Lewis, are you listening?)

Canadian districts are on average about 1.3x the size of British districts as long as you exclude the territories and PEI. Of course, it varies pretty widely by province.

[Hatman 🍁]

UK sized means Canada sized, so this will definately be cool. However, I do ask for maps. Otherwise it's just meaningless names numbers. (Lewis, are you listening?)

Canadian districts are on average about 1.3x the size of British districts as long as you exclude the territories and PEI. Of course, it varies pretty widely by province.

It's still pretty similar. Plus, look at the Isle of Wight. It's about the size of PEI yet is only one district, while PEI has 4!

[Hash]

bump. I hope we can have maps and countries.

[Хahar 🤔]

Ineresting.