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Question: Do you support Grexit
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2015, 06:20:04 pm »
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No, I support making the Euro a real common currency rather than the monstrosity we have now.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2015, 06:27:34 pm »
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It's like crashing against a wall, certain narratives will remain the same in spite of developments.

Grexit and a general contraction in size of the eurozone. The EZ is clearly not working and it is endangering the general European project.

The Eurozone is not working because there's a misguided political direction and a defective institutional architecture. Neither of the two is the Greece's fault. Another question is if you need a scapegoat. On the other hand, there's not 'European project' at this point.

Greece is part of the problem. As is a general difference in opinion about the role of the ECB and a variety of other policy questions. Which is why it makes sense to limit the euro to an area where you have a broad agreement on those matters. There is no point in lumping together countries on the other hand that have immense cultural differences concerning these issues.
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« Reply #27 on: Today at 04:44:47 am »
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There is no point in lumping together countries on the other hand that have immense cultural differences concerning these issues.

Cultural differences in the origin of a bad institutional design and the role of the ECB? LOL. Greece is only a symptom of that and your sentence - which just reflects a extended thinking- only proves that the so called European project is dead for many. Actually you are Eurosceptic, it's only that you haven't realised.
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« Reply #28 on: Today at 04:54:28 am »
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No, he is for Europe, as long than Germany is running it.
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« Reply #29 on: Today at 06:01:36 am »
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No, I am for cooperation on a variety of topics that Europeans can agree on. I do think that the EU sans Euro has been a fantastic success story. W/o European integration, some countries in Europe might have slid back into authoritarianism during the last economic crisis. Being within the European fold has kept them on a relatively tight leash though. I enjoy traveling through a Europe w/o borders and having the ability to relatively easily move between member states.

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Cultural differences in the origin of a bad institutional design and the role of the ECB? LOL.

I don't get what there is to lol about. The Germans wanted this kind of ECB. German politicians would in all likelihood never have signed up to a project guided by a less Bundesbanky ECB while other nations begrudgingly signed up to such a framework. So as you can see some of the problems are down to rather different interpretations of the role and scope of a central bank.
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