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« Reply #400 on: May 31, 2012, 07:10:22 AM »

The simple truth is that if Labor knew how to sell, they'd be way ahead.

Our hopes will probably rest with the Thomson scenario.
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« Reply #401 on: May 31, 2012, 08:39:02 AM »

Here's the text of her speech, which I found quite good:

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« Reply #402 on: June 12, 2012, 05:52:53 PM »

New newspoll, Coalition's primary vote drops a little, ALP stalls... but Gillard's personal numbers improving, now 4% ahead of Abbott and with lower dissatisfaction and higher satisfaction than Abbott for the first time since Feb/March.

Primary
ALP: 31% (-1)
Coalition: 44% (-2)
Greens: 14% (+2)

TPP
ALP: 46% (NC)
Coalition: 54% (NC)

Preferred PM
Gillard: 42% (+2)
Abbott: 38% (+1)

Satisfaction
Gillard: 32% (+2)
Abbott: 32% (+1)

Dissatisfaction
Gillard: 58% (-2)
Abbott: 59% (-1)
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« Reply #403 on: June 21, 2012, 06:45:45 AM »

Another 75-150 people have drowned in an ayslum boat sinking north of Christmas Island.
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« Reply #404 on: June 22, 2012, 09:42:05 AM »

Queensland sucks;

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/newman-kowtowing-to-rightwingers-cope-20120622-20rmi.html
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« Reply #405 on: June 30, 2012, 08:29:38 AM »

Prime Minister? Really!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osID-_Zi-1I
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« Reply #406 on: June 30, 2012, 08:38:42 AM »

That's a couple of months old, isn't it? Tongue
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« Reply #407 on: June 30, 2012, 10:46:41 AM »

Yay! Smiley

(only kidding, in case you think I'm a real dumass)
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« Reply #408 on: June 30, 2012, 10:49:18 AM »

Yay! Smiley

(only kidding, in case you think I'm a real dumass)

Not at all. Just wonder what makes you care so little about fellow human beings.
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« Reply #409 on: June 30, 2012, 10:50:24 AM »

Yay! Smiley

(only kidding, in case you think I'm a real dumass)

Not at all. Just wonder what makes you care so little about fellow human beings.

Ah, I'm not that bad. Surely? Sad
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« Reply #410 on: June 30, 2012, 10:57:21 AM »

Yay! Smiley

(only kidding, in case you think I'm a real dumass)

Not at all. Just wonder what makes you care so little about fellow human beings.

Ah, I'm not that bad. Surely? Sad
Yes you are, Verwoerd, based on that comment.
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« Reply #411 on: June 30, 2012, 11:04:10 AM »

Yay! Smiley

(only kidding, in case you think I'm a real dumass)

Not at all. Just wonder what makes you care so little about fellow human beings.

Ah, I'm not that bad. Surely? Sad
Yes you are, Verwoerd, based on that comment.

Hey you can call me Hendrik (kidding)
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« Reply #412 on: June 30, 2012, 11:06:25 AM »

The whole debate is really muddled. It is inhumane not to accept for processing those who seek asylum here, but it's also inhumane to not be doing what we can to discourage people from getting on these boats, roughly 5% of which sink. I don't have the solution, but the Greens can't compromise, the coalition play the worst kind of dogwhistling on the whole issue, and Labor's plan it an ineffective bitza mess. As much as I xan't believe I'm typing this, the only plan I've heard in the last few days even worth considering is, gulp, Clive Palmer's.

That said, at the very least, the govt is setting up an independent investigative group for finding solutions to the issue, headed by former ADF chief Angus Houston, so maybe they'll have a plan worth reviewinf, he's also struck me as a non-reactionary conservative, a small group in Australia, but a group that has had some remarkable, real sucesses in government and policy.
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« Reply #413 on: June 30, 2012, 11:09:02 AM »

Also, if that post was a dash rambling, sorry, its two am here.

Also, because I'm obliged to say this in any circumstance where asylum boats and the leader of the opposition are mentioned...my god Tony Abbott is a count.
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« Reply #414 on: July 02, 2012, 05:46:30 AM »

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-02/emerson-sings-no-whyalla-wipe-out/4105246
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« Reply #415 on: July 02, 2012, 07:49:41 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2012, 07:51:24 PM by Smid »

Yeah, you have to wonder how he ever became a Cabinet Minister (actually, we all know the answer to that one... *wink*).
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« Reply #416 on: July 02, 2012, 08:08:30 PM »

Yeah, you have to wonder how he ever became a Cabinet Minister (actually, we all know the answer to that one... *wink*).

He's been heliated, right? Or is he always that much of a freakin clown?
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« Reply #417 on: July 02, 2012, 08:30:51 PM »

Yeah, you have to wonder how he ever became a Cabinet Minister (actually, we all know the answer to that one... *wink*).

Just looked at his wikipedia page. As if he dated Julia!
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« Reply #418 on: July 02, 2012, 09:17:37 PM »

Yeah, you have to wonder how he ever became a Cabinet Minister (actually, we all know the answer to that one... *wink*).

Just looked at his wikipedia page. As if he dated Julia!

No?

[quote author=Prime Minister Gillard]
JULIA GILLARD: My relationship with Craig Emerson was a very important one to me. Being involved with a colleague has got its down side in the sense that drawing the line between what's work and what's not work becomes increasingly blurred. Craig and I were staying together at a hotel and I'd managed to forget to pack my contact lens holder. So I was just storing the contact lenses at the bottom of a glass, which wasn't exactly the smartest thing in the world to do. Er, so...in the bathroom, this glass with the contact lenses and a bit of solution in them. So, you know, during the course of the night, Craig gets up and thinking it's water, grabs the glass and drinks it. So I was wandering around National Conference blind for the next morning. I did have to give the Health Policy Report at the podium not basically able to see my notes or see the audience. Craig and I lived in different states in very demanding positions. And in the hurly-burly of the Labor world, ultimately it was just too difficult. I'm not involved in a relationship now, and you know, your, sort of, your life history rolls on.
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« Reply #419 on: July 03, 2012, 01:06:33 AM »

It was awful, but he's a better trade minister than his shadow would be, by a mile.
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« Reply #420 on: July 09, 2012, 07:30:24 AM »

The Carbon Tax has claimed another victim...

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/07/09/carbon-tax-funeral-impact-unknown/

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« Reply #421 on: July 09, 2012, 08:51:42 AM »


Looks kinda like you saw a more balanced story elsewhere and then hunted down a source that most closely aligned with your views. Good to know the Sunshine Coast Daily didn't disappoint.

For a somewhat more balanced version, here's the take by the (still right-wing) Courier Mail:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/death-costs-wont-rise-under-carbon-tax-the-federal-government-has-promised/story-e6freon6-1226421669761
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« Reply #422 on: July 09, 2012, 10:18:41 AM »


Looks kinda like you saw a more balanced story elsewhere and then hunted down a source that most closely aligned with your views. Good to know the Sunshine Coast Daily didn't disappoint.

For a somewhat more balanced version, here's the take by the (still right-wing) Courier Mail:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/death-costs-wont-rise-under-carbon-tax-the-federal-government-has-promised/story-e6freon6-1226421669761

I assure you, I am quite ignorant of what is right or left in terms of Australian media. He only paper I know is the Australian, which is a Murdoch's outfit.

Anyway, I think he story is rather silly. I just posted it because of he weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over the law.
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« Reply #423 on: July 10, 2012, 02:13:00 AM »


Looks kinda like you saw a more balanced story elsewhere and then hunted down a source that most closely aligned with your views. Good to know the Sunshine Coast Daily didn't disappoint.

For a somewhat more balanced version, here's the take by the (still right-wing) Courier Mail:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/death-costs-wont-rise-under-carbon-tax-the-federal-government-has-promised/story-e6freon6-1226421669761

I assure you, I am quite ignorant of what is right or left in terms of Australian media. He only paper I know is the Australian, which is a Murdoch's outfit.

Anyway, I think he story is rather silly. I just posted it because of he weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over the law.

Right: Murdoch media (Telegraph, Australian)
Center: Fairfax media (might move right once Rinehart takes over)
Left: ABC/SBS

Generally.
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« Reply #424 on: July 10, 2012, 04:21:53 AM »

I'd make an argument that the ABC is broadly anti-government, whoever the government may be. Which in the Australian context, is a leftish position.

That said, ABC viewers/listeners are most certainly left wing.
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