Australia General Discussion

[morgieb]

Why has Katter's Party evaporated since the last Queensland election?

Palmer had more money and probably more appeal to a wider range of Australians. Hence he sucked any oxygen Katter had and became the leading center-right populist (for lack of a better term) party.

[BaconBacon96]

Australia's probably the only anglophone nation that has party's named after their leaders, like Katter's Australian Party or Palmer United Party.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Newspoll

Primaries
LNP: 35% (-2)
ALP: 37% (+1)
GRN: 13% (+3)

TPP
LNP: 45% (-2)
ALP: 55% (+2)

Satisfaction
Abbott: 31% (+1)
Shorten: 34% (nc)

Dissatisfaction
Abbott: 62% (+1)
Shorten: 41% (-4)

Preferred PM
Abbott: 34% (-3)
Shorten: 44% (+4)

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Happy New Senate Day! PUP will literally be the wild card to the government's passing of any legislation.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Happy New Senate Day! PUP will literally be the wild card to the government's passing of any legislation.

God help us all...

[Barnes]

Happy New Senate Day! PUP will literally be the wild card to the government's passing of any legislation.

God help us all...

It's rather thrilling isn't it?

Of course, God only knows what American Palmer will cart out next to talk about climate change. Ralph Nader, perhaps?

[Lief 🗽]

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/04/tony-abbott-says-australia-was-unsettled-before-british-arrived

What an ass.

[MaxQue]

Can Shorten really become the PM in 2 years? I know Australia is really unprone to government changes and than Labor was heavilly defeated, but Abbott is really unpopular and gaffe-prone.

[Barnes]

Can Shorten really become the PM in 2 years? I know Australia is really unprone to government changes and than Labor was heavilly defeated, but Abbott is really unpopular and gaffe-prone.

Abbott has never really been popular, it's just that Labor eventually became more unpopular than him for a long enough window for him to win the election.  That said, the Coalition has quite a healthy majority, but Australian changes of government are known to be achieved by very sizable swings (discounting Whitlam in '72). 

As we all know, it's really not possible to predict any outcome two years before an election, but I certainly think that Labor has established a real lead and if an election were held today they would come within a fair shot of winning, if not indeed achieving a majority.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Can Shorten really become the PM in 2 years? I know Australia is really unprone to government changes and than Labor was heavilly defeated, but Abbott is really unpopular and gaffe-prone.

Barnes basically hit the nail on the head... the ALP defeat in 2013 had virtually NOTHING to do with the alternative policies. If the ALP had its act together and not behaved like a more socially retarded version of high school.... they would have won 2010 and more than likely 2013 too.

I find it very odd that we are looking at a change of government in two years time, but this Government has been historic in how badly they've traveled as a first-term Government and Abbott in particular has been a disaster. This 'unsettled' comment is exactly the kind of self-inflicted wound that the government has been dealing with since almost day one.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, I knew they'd pursue some terrible ideological policies... but I had no idea they'd be so terrible at it.

I would never predict a first-term Government to lose in Australia, but considering how badly they've ballsed up everything else, I don't know why I should be expecting them to do that right either.

[Knives]

It's not just that, Abbott's also going to drag state governments into the ground.

I mean, if it wasn't for Abbott (and Geoff Shaw) the Vic Libs should win the next election, it was a decent budget and no  first term Vic government since 1955 has only served one term but they're more than likely to lose EVEN with the favorable distributions they've received. I mean, in QLD a swing is understandable, but to the point Labor is even leading in the polls? This isn't just bad policies, it's horrific leadership internally and externally, they're just so off on the mindset of the average Australian.

[BaconBacon96]

Honestly, I'm not so sure that this government will be kicked out after one three year term. It's almost unprecedented. Despite what the polling suggests, I do not believe that enough people who voted Coalition  will all decide to vote Labor again. People are just too cautious.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'd argue the idea that the VIC libs would be winning without Abbott... I certainly don't think he helps matters, but I think it's the difference between being down 3 or 4 or being down 10.

As for Abbott losing in two years, yes - it's a VERY VERY confident person who predicts a first-term Australian Government to lose, and I'm certainly not doing that. What I am saying is that this Government is the in the WORST position a first-term Government has been in, in the modern-era - they are badly regarded in historical terms.

So if any recent Government is going to be booted out in its first term, this lot seem prime candidates.

[Knives]

Is this the first time a government has received such bad international press?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Is this the first time a government has received such bad international press?

Honestly... it would be close.

[You kip if you want to...]

Is this the first time a government has received such bad international press?

Honestly... it would be close.

Bush league.

[Barnes]

The Governor of Tasmania, Peter Underwood, has died.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-08/tasmania-governor-peter-underwood-dies-aged-76/5580058

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

[Knives]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

[MaxQue]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

Do you have any proof than he is the one who reported it? It might very well be something else.
Given than you attack him without proof, this is a unfunded personal attack.

[Knives]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

What are you even talking about?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

The only people made happy by these self-inflicted wounds are social regressives like Hifly.

It doesn't help the vote, at all, in fact, it hurts it and the ALP not going back to being a backwards party... despite the valiant attempts to lose elections from people like Hifly who want the party to be dragged back to the days of Santamaria.

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

The only people made happy by these self-inflicted wounds are social regressives like Hifly.

It doesn't help the vote, at all, in fact, it hurts it and the ALP not going back to being a backwards party... despite the valiant attempts to lose elections from people like Hifly who want the party to be dragged back to the days of Santamaria.

I don't how anyone could justify the inclusion of Amanda Fazio on the Labor ticket. She's been replaced by a talented young individual called Courtney Houssos from Country Labor. Only God knows why Fazio was Right Faction member because her stances on issues are quite extraordinary.

[Hifly]

Labor is currently sorting out preselections for the NSW Upper House elections next year, and it's been reported that both Amanda Fazio and Helen Westwood, two of the three most militant social liberals in the Labor caucus, have been ousted and so their careers will end next year.

Can't you just focus on German politics? Like seriously,  off.

Reporting my posts isn't going to help you because literally everyone who's paying attention knows about you. The fact that you did report it speaks volumes.
This post is not a Personal Attack.*

* it looks as if I'm going to have to post this clarification in every single one of my replies to you so you get the message. Also, is saying "**** off" to me not a personal attack?

What are you even talking about?

Do you want me to repost the post you got deleted or is the topic too sensitive for you to handle?