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« Reply #1525 on: October 02, 2014, 03:34:52 AM »

Tasmania could introduce extremely draconian smoking laws...

I don't smoke myself, and wouldn't personally (don't mind the smell, but don't want heart attacks or bad teeth) but this is clearly a recipe for disaster...

Restricting access to tobacco is a bad idea in my opinion, considering it will just create another black & grey market alike, could result in more people turning to illicit drugs, and opens up the scary avenue for restricting/banning alcohol and fast food. While tobacco is VERY different to say, a bucket of fried chicken or a pint of beer, in that there's second-hand smoke, it still seems absurd to deny adults the right to buy and use tobacco.

That's an article from 2012!
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« Reply #1526 on: October 02, 2014, 07:46:31 AM »

Tasmania could introduce extremely draconian smoking laws...

I don't smoke myself, and wouldn't personally (don't mind the smell, but don't want heart attacks or bad teeth) but this is clearly a recipe for disaster...

Restricting access to tobacco is a bad idea in my opinion, considering it will just create another black & grey market alike, could result in more people turning to illicit drugs, and opens up the scary avenue for restricting/banning alcohol and fast food. While tobacco is VERY different to say, a bucket of fried chicken or a pint of beer, in that there's second-hand smoke, it still seems absurd to deny adults the right to buy and use tobacco.

That's an article from 2012!

It was re-posted by a couple of Facebook pages I follow this week though, so I just assumed it was recent. My bad!
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« Reply #1527 on: October 03, 2014, 08:36:34 AM »

Can someone tell the whole story about the sex scandal in the Australian refugee center of Nauru? I am bit confused.
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« Reply #1528 on: October 03, 2014, 05:50:07 PM »

What exactly is confusing you?

From what I understand, people seeking asylum in Australia are kept at detention centres in Nauru while their claims are processed, when they are done processing them, most are sent to PNG or Cambodia.

People are mad about the very poor conditions at the centres in Nauru, which pretty much everyone agrees are terrible. There is also an undercurrent that some don't want such centres existing at all, even if they were run better. They just want Australia to accept pretty much all the asylum seekers.
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« Reply #1529 on: October 04, 2014, 04:39:20 PM »

What exactly is confusing you?

From what I understand, people seeking asylum in Australia are kept at detention centres in Nauru while their claims are processed, when they are done processing them, most are sent to PNG or Cambodia.

People are mad about the very poor conditions at the centres in Nauru, which pretty much everyone agrees are terrible. There is also an undercurrent that some don't want such centres existing at all, even if they were run better. They just want Australia to accept pretty much all the asylum seekers.

Additionally, some human rights workers in the camps have been caught encouraging people to self-harm in order to create a "Desperate refugee attempts suicide due to inhumane laws" news story.
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« Reply #1530 on: October 05, 2014, 08:52:49 AM »

It seems like some are saying that the allegations may be false and made up by opponents to the center. And there is also this 'self-harm' on top of that. I just read about that, and I am unsure about has been proved and what may be made up.
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« Reply #1531 on: October 05, 2014, 02:16:46 PM »

It seems like some are saying that the allegations may be false and made up by opponents to the center. And there is also this 'self-harm' on top of that. I just read about that, and I am unsure about has been proved and what may be made up.
The plight of some of these asylum seekers is definitely exaggerated by the left-wing.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 08, 2014, 10:55:44 PM »

Here's a more current ridiculous smoking-related news story from Australia:

http://www.classicfm.com/music-news/latest-news/carmen-opera-promotes-smoking/

FFS.
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« Reply #1533 on: October 13, 2014, 08:52:59 AM »

Germany fights for Australian submarine defence contract after Japan makes a bid for it
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That seems like a damn good deal.  Either way, a bidding war is good for Australia.
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« Reply #1534 on: October 13, 2014, 08:55:30 AM »

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That seems like a damn good deal.  Either way, a bidding war is good for Australia.

It will be interesting to see if Shorten sticks to the racist protectionist rhetoric he used when describing the Japanese.
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« Reply #1535 on: October 13, 2014, 10:18:21 AM »

A truly great politician, Dr. Bob Such from the SA House of Assembly, passed away on Saturday from a brain tumour.
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« Reply #1536 on: October 19, 2014, 03:47:51 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.
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« Reply #1537 on: October 19, 2014, 09:28:49 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.

Cormann is always good for cheap laughs.
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« Reply #1538 on: October 19, 2014, 09:30:04 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.

Is that really surprising? The only thing the Abbott government is competent in, is bullying.
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« Reply #1539 on: October 19, 2014, 09:37:49 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.

Is that really surprising? The only thing the Abbott government is competent in, is bullying.

And even then, really obvious bullying that leaves them further down in the polls.
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« Reply #1540 on: October 19, 2014, 10:07:00 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.

Is that really surprising? The only thing the Abbott government is competent in, is bullying.

And even then, really obvious bullying that leaves them further down in the polls.

They didn't lead a poll since early April.
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« Reply #1541 on: October 19, 2014, 10:23:26 PM »

What an embarrassing statement from Cormann.

Is that really surprising? The only thing the Abbott government is competent in, is bullying.

And even then, really obvious bullying that leaves them further down in the polls.

They didn't lead a poll since early April.

Yeah... but they've been coming back. Newspoll SHOULD be out tonight - I'm expecting a 50/50 result, or maybe even a 51/49 to the Government. Which would be their first Newspoll lead... in a very long time.
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« Reply #1542 on: October 20, 2014, 08:03:13 AM »

Shows how much I know Tongue

Newspoll (despite the OZ's desperate polishing) has the ALP picking up 2 to be up 53-47.
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« Reply #1543 on: October 20, 2014, 04:11:30 PM »

Breaking: Whitlam has died at 98. RIP.
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« Reply #1544 on: October 20, 2014, 04:14:08 PM »

RIP to a true great
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« Reply #1545 on: October 20, 2014, 04:17:59 PM »


RIP - regardless of what you might have thought of his politics, his place in Australian political history is clear.
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« Reply #1546 on: October 20, 2014, 04:19:35 PM »

RIP
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« Reply #1547 on: October 20, 2014, 04:20:54 PM »

Hero. RIP.
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« Reply #1548 on: October 20, 2014, 04:21:32 PM »

Family says private cremation, public memorial service.
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« Reply #1549 on: October 20, 2014, 04:43:58 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2014, 04:46:12 PM by RogueBeaver »

Abbott statement.
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