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« on: November 29, 2007, 09:15:32 PM »
« edited: December 13, 2007, 02:43:51 PM by Verily »
Affirmative Action Reform Bill of 2007

1. F.L. 8-14 is repealed.


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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2007, 04:54:28 PM »
Well, since no one else is talking, I will say that I am opposed to this bill and find no redeeming facet to the return of affirmative action, an outdated practice in modern Atlasia that reaffirms stereotypes and prejudices of all sorts.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2007, 07:01:52 PM »
Quote from: 24 DuPont Chevy on December 01, 2007, 06:53:19 PM
This bill is easily more absurd than the "Fairness to the Children Act"

More? Certainly not.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2007, 07:43:07 PM »
Quote from: Ebowed on December 01, 2007, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on December 01, 2007, 06:49:51 PM
Meaning we hire people for their qualifications instead of getting someone in there just to keep the place diverse.

I don't think you really understand what affirmative action is.

If an employer has two completely equal candidates for a position, he might consider picking the one from a more diverse background.  Affirmative action is not a quota policy, or forced hiring of anyone solely for their skin color.

There is no such thing as "completely equal" candidates.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2007, 07:52:09 PM »
Quote from: Ebowed on December 01, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
Quote from: Verily on December 01, 2007, 07:43:07 PM
There is no such thing as "completely equal" candidates.

It probably happens all the time, especially in lower-level employment.

The government is not in the business of hiring unskilled laborers as far as I am aware, and even there candidates can always be distinguished by communication skills, physical strength, etc. Affirmative action is a tool of the lazy decision-maker.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2007, 05:54:51 PM »
Given that debate has died on this legislation, I will bring this to a final vote.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2007, 05:55:32 PM »
We are now voting on the final passage of the following legislation. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2007, 05:56:13 PM »
Nay
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2007, 10:53:49 PM »
Tally on Final Vote
Aye: 2 (Ebowed; Earl)
Nay: 3 (Verily; Moderate; Afleitch)
Yet to Vote: 5 (Brandon; Friz; Sam; Sensei; SoS)
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 10:21:04 AM »
Revised Tally on Final Vote
Aye: 2 (Ebowed; Earl)
Nay: 5 (Verily; Moderate; Afleitch; Brandon; Sensei)
Yet to Vote: 3 (Friz; Sam; SoS)
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 12:42:57 PM »
This legislation has enough votes to fail. Senators have twenty-four hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2007, 02:43:41 PM »
With six opposed, this legislation has failed.

Result on Final Vote
Aye: 2 (Ebowed; Earl)
Nay: 6 (Verily; Moderate; Afleitch; Brandon; Sensei; Sam)
Abstain [Voted]: 1 (SoS)
Abstain [Didn't vote]: 1 (Friz)
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