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« on: December 07, 2007, 07:27:51 am »
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This will be a fairly long-running thing, but hopefully not too slow. The general idea will be to make maps showing support for each party in the elections between 1920 and 1932 (most likely starting with the Nazis), as well as one-off maps for the elections in 1919 and 1933. And probably some stuff after that, but who knows.

As a sort of stop-gap, I've done maps of the second round of both Presidential elections and also reposted the link to the maps of the November 1932 election I did a while ago.

PROJECT COMPLETE! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 07:28:42 am »
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Aforementioned map of Presidential elections. Minor mistakes possible.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2007, 07:30:09 am »
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Interesting, Al.

That's Saxony where Hitler won in 1932, isn't it? Aren't the NPD strong there today?
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2007, 07:42:40 am »
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That's Saxony where Hitler won in 1932, isn't it? Aren't the NPD strong there today?

No, that isn't Saxony. The brown areas on the 1932 map are Brandenburg, Thuringia, Pomerania and  Schleswig-Holstein.

Saxony was considered a stronghold of the SPD and the communists during the Weimar Republic.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2007, 07:57:25 am »

Data source?
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2007, 08:15:28 am »
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You're right, that is Thuringia. I can remember my modern German states off by heart, but I couldn't put them all on a blank map.

My question stands though.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2007, 09:17:27 am »
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yes they are strong there.

there are strong all over east germany.

disgusting.

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 09:22:16 am »
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Al, not to be picky, could you either anti-alias your fonts or use something that isn't as hard to read?

I don't want to take away from the map quality, but the text is hard to read...is it just me?

If so, I'll shut up. :-p
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 09:36:54 am »
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Yes, and the NPD seems the be particularly strong in Saxony. However, it hasn't much to do with the way people voted in 1932 or something.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 09:49:41 am »
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Al, not to be picky, could you either anti-alias your fonts or use something that isn't as hard to read?

I don't want to take away from the map quality, but the text is hard to read...is it just me?

If so, I'll shut up. :-p

It's a bit hard for me. He's using a Germanic font.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 12:04:41 pm »
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Al, not to be picky, could you either anti-alias your fonts or use something that isn't as hard to read?

I don't want to take away from the map quality, but the text is hard to read...is it just me?

If so, I'll shut up. :-p

It's a bit hard for me. He's using a Germanic font.

It´s good practice for you guys Wink I think that it gives an authentic look to the maps. Reminds me of good old Algemeine Deutche Handatlas
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 12:47:23 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 03:29:16 pm »
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For everyone who what to know more about the elections in the Weimarer Republik is this link useful http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/index.htm

It is in german, but you see all results in this time.
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The Boardbashi would like it to be known that people who complain about the use of fraktur will be thrown to the cats. Yes. The cats.

For everyone who what to know more about the elections in the Weimarer Republik is this link useful http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/index.htm

It is in german, but you see all results in this time.

Yep; 'tis a good site that one. I think it's also on the links thread here.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2007, 04:33:06 pm »
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What does "Boardbashi" mean anyway?

What electoral system did the Weimar Republic actually use?

BTW, the Weimar Republic only got that name after WW2.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2007, 04:35:12 pm »

The Boardbashi would like it to be known that people who complain about the use of fraktur will be thrown to the cats. Yes. The cats.

For everyone who what to know more about the elections in the Weimarer Republik is this link useful http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/index.htm

It is in german, but you see all results in this time.

Yep; 'tis a good site that one. I think it's also on the links thread here.

What was your data source? The above mentioned site?
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2007, 04:42:54 pm »
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What was your data source?

That would be telling Smiley

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The above mentioned site?

Yes. And no. At the same time.

Btw, I also have, somewhere, results (some results anyway...) of the 1917 Russian constituent assembly elections. Anyone interested in those?
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 04:43:59 pm »

Btw, I also have, somewhere, results (some results anyway...) of the 1917 Russian constituent assembly elections. Anyone interested in those?

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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 04:47:19 pm »
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Yes, please. I'd like to see how badly the Bolsheviks got whipped.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 05:42:25 pm »

What does "Boardbashi" mean anyway?

"Father of the Board" in Turkmen, probably based on the late Turkmenbashi

What electoral system did the Weimar Republic actually use?
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Proportional representation w/ no thresholds IIRC
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2007, 06:08:07 pm »
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What electoral system did the Weimar Republic actually use?

Proportional representation w/ no thresholds IIRC


That's correct. Pure PR. No thresholds or direct seats. At least in Reichstag elections.


President: Popular election. If no candidate received more than 50%, a run-off was held with a simple plurality of votes being sufficient now.

Interestingly, candidates could be replaced between the two rounds. As a result, the candidates in the run-off weren't always the same candidates which had stood in the first round. In addition, all candidates from the first round could theoretically participate in the run-off too. So, no candidates were actually eliminated with the first round (except for those who chose to drop out or who where replaced by their respective parties).



Example - 1925 presidential election

First round
Karl Jarres (DVP, also endorsed by DNVP): 38.8%
Otto Braun (SPD): 29.0%
Wilhelm Marx (Zentrum): 14.5%
Ernst Thälmann (KPD): 7.0%
Willy Hellpach (DDP): 5.8%
Heinrich Held (BVP): 3.7%
Erich Ludendorff (NSDAP): 1.1%

Second round
Paul von Hindenburg (endorsed by DVP, DNVP, BVP and NSDAP): 48.3%
Wilhelm Marx (Zentrum, also endorsed by SPD and DDP): 45.3%
Ernst Thälmann (KPD): 6.4%
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2007, 06:18:39 pm »
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I have been wondering who "Abolf Sitler" is Wink Any relation to Toronto Maple Leafs great Darryl Sittler?

You're silly; it's quite clearly "Ubolf Sitler".
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 07:05:34 pm »
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Thälmann didn't win a single state?
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 07:14:11 pm »

Thälmann didn't win a single state?

No, his scores in both 1925 and 1932 were both below 10% IIRC, which by far means, unless there's some favorite-son factor (think de Villiers 1995 and Royer 1974), he stands no chance at winning any state/division.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 07:19:21 pm »
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Thälmann didn't win a single state?

No, his scores in both 1925 and 1932 were both below 10% IIRC, which by far means, unless there's some favorite-son factor (think de Villiers 1995 and Royer 1974), he stands no chance at winning any state/division.

Interesting. I always thought of him as being a major candidate. I'm guessing he won a plurality in Berlin, though.
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