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« Reply #125 on: October 01, 2014, 07:54:49 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #126 on: May 25, 2015, 05:48:06 AM »

Peter Robinson has had a heart attack.
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« Reply #127 on: May 25, 2015, 05:53:43 AM »

I can't remember him ever looking well.
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« Reply #128 on: May 25, 2015, 06:24:39 AM »

I can't remember him ever looking well.

Being Peter Robinson might do that to a person.

Seriously, I wish him a speedy recovery, but he's still a wanker.
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« Reply #129 on: May 25, 2015, 09:33:54 AM »

I can't remember him ever looking well.

He's the guy who went to sleep hearing and in both ears and woke up deaf in one.
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« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2015, 04:04:33 PM »

The Northern Ireland Assembly could collapse following the failure of the welfare bill - it could be down to Westminster to pass a welfare bill for Northern Ireland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32894371
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32793324
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« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2015, 04:28:36 PM »

Wish they'd just go back to direct rule completely #ukup
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« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2015, 09:21:50 AM »

Wish they'd just go back to direct rule completely #ukup
The problem is that the Northern Ireland Assembly was created as part of the Good Friday Agreement - the peace treaty for The Troubles. It would, in theory, be a breach of an international treaty - between the UK and Ireland. I don't think it can happen...
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« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2015, 06:28:34 PM »

So long as the Assembly is merely suspended rather than ended then Direct Rule is technically fine. It was basically the norm before the St. Andrews Agreement.
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« Reply #134 on: July 24, 2015, 04:51:58 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2015, 06:00:40 PM by politicus »



Grey is the new orange.

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« Reply #135 on: July 24, 2015, 04:58:43 PM »

Oh dear
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« Reply #136 on: July 24, 2015, 05:09:43 PM »


Surprising. I thought they had changed it long time ago.
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« Reply #137 on: July 24, 2015, 05:45:00 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2015, 05:57:42 PM by ObserverIE »


They changed the name of the local authority which covers the city ages ago. The legally-defined city, a much smaller area, is still officially "Londonderry" and would need permission from the British Privy Council for its name, defined in a royal charter, to be changed. SF have been unwilling to go through with this step, at least until now, because of their own party theology.

The county surrounding it is another matter altogether.
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« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2015, 07:08:50 AM »

Looks like the Ulster Unionists are pulling out of Government over claims the IRA may have been involved in a recent murder.
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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2015, 09:31:15 PM »

Looks like the Ulster Unionists are pulling out of Government over claims the IRA may have been involved in a recent murder.

Pathetic maneuvering by UUP
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« Reply #140 on: September 02, 2015, 05:56:00 PM »

Can someone explain what is going on?
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« Reply #141 on: September 02, 2015, 06:36:41 PM »

Can someone explain what is going on?

The UUP was replaced by the DUP as the main Unionist party about a decade ago. Ever since, the UUP has wildly flailed between left and right, looking for a reason to exist. Right now, it's flailing right. It doesn't matter though, they are irrelevant.
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« Reply #142 on: September 02, 2015, 06:52:51 PM »

That I get.

But can someone tell me why IRA front groups assuming the form of anti drug vigilantes are actually killing drug dealers? Are these all Unionist drug dealers? Is there some kind of history? Are they aiming for plausible deniability? Or so they just want an excuse to kill people?
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« Reply #143 on: September 02, 2015, 07:03:03 PM »

Of course there are Prod drug dealers as well. The Loyalist groups all got into the act. Its a sign of real cross-community progress in its way.
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« Reply #144 on: September 02, 2015, 07:05:34 PM »

Some of the worst 'incidents' in the past 10 years in the North have been between rival loyalist paramilitaries - related usually to their 'share' of the local drug trade.
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« Reply #145 on: September 03, 2015, 08:53:26 AM »
« Edited: September 03, 2015, 08:58:42 AM by ObserverIE »

That I get.

But can someone tell me why IRA front groups assuming the form of anti drug vigilantes are actually killing drug dealers? Are these all Unionist drug dealers? Is there some kind of history? Are they aiming for plausible deniability? Or so they just want an excuse to kill people?

Drug dealers shot by Republican paramilitaries are from their own side of the fence.

This current spate of killings is a feud between two groups of ex-Provisional IRA men in Belfast. The story as retailed by Henry McDonald in the Guardian is that McGuigan was planning to take out other ex-IRA leaders after having shot Davison and that the shooting of McGuigan was a pre-emptive strike. (McDonald is an ex-Stick and is not notably friendly to the Provisionals so has no motive to minimise any SF connection.) The Phoenix (Irish equivalent of Private Eye) has a similar story in the current issue.
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« Reply #146 on: September 09, 2015, 12:15:58 PM »

The DUP have set an ultimatum to suspend Stormont or they quit as ministers.

Now I don't usually like the DUP very much, but I can kind of see why they'd be unhappy. The PIRA was meant to be history and it doesn't seem to be.
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« Reply #147 on: September 09, 2015, 03:47:47 PM »

Re : The supposed continued existence of the Provvies, did anybody really expect them to just give up the stranglehold they had on their own communities, let alone the leverage that an armed organisation would have in any outbreak of violence?

The important thing is that they are no longer political, they are criminal. So lock them up and be done with them, as they won't be able to claim they are of the same political stock as Bobby Sands.

I'm still unsure as to why the UUP did what they did.
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« Reply #148 on: September 10, 2015, 11:19:03 AM »

Peter Robinson has resigned.
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« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2015, 11:20:03 AM »

Robinson "steps aside" but claims he hasn't actually resigned, all the DUP ministers are gone apart from Arlene Foster...?

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