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« on: December 10, 2007, 01:39:26 PM »

Yes. Not ideologically of course, and not communists NOW obviously, but look back to the 60s in countries such as France. Watch The Dreamers and take note of the twins especially the guy who reads from Mao's little red book.

Essentially, Paul's supporters are sort of a political cult similar to some communist parties, even if they are ideologically diametrically opposed.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2007, 01:43:17 PM »

Is it against the law to support a candidate?

No, of course not. Neither is it against the law to belong to a political cult. But many Ron Paul supporters are pretty much in the latter.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2007, 01:46:46 PM »

Is it against the law to support a candidate?

No, of course not. Neither is it against the law to belong to a political cult. But many Ron Paul supporters are pretty much in the latter.

And what, pray tell, is a political cult?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_cult

If you mean the sort of doctrinaire Trotskyites\Maoists from the 20s to about the late 70s then the answer is obviously yes.

Yes. I thought I made that clear in the original post with the examples. Communists like that don't really exist anymore, so it's amusing that libertarians have taken their place.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2007, 01:54:38 PM »

So this is your line of thinking:

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Er, no. Not at all. Rather it's more when these libertarians organize and begin acting like Ron Paul supporters do.

https://uselectionatlas.org/MOCK/PRESIDENT/2008R/mock.php

And go look at his InTrade numbers...

Sure this is relatively mild stuff, but it's a microcosm of a bigger picture, a belief among some Ron Paul supporters seeing him as some sort of messiah and that they must do everything to further the cause of Paul.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 02:03:45 PM »

"Ron Paul Revolution" hung over every bridge possible:Maoist graffiti in Paris in 1968
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 02:08:33 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2007, 02:11:19 PM by We Live Like Lost Children »

So this is your line of thinking:

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Er, no. Not at all. Rather it's more when these libertarians organize and begin acting like Ron Paul supporters do.

https://uselectionatlas.org/MOCK/PRESIDENT/2008R/mock.php

And go look at his InTrade numbers...

Sure this is relatively mild stuff, but it's a microcosm of a bigger picture, a belief among some Ron Paul supporters seeing him as some sort of messiah and that they must do everything to further the cause of Paul.

Why do you give a s*** about something called an InTrade number? Does that win elections? Does it have any relevance to the overall American political landscape? No.

I have zero belief that Paul will win a primary. He has far outperformed my expectations though based on his fundraising, supporters, and poll numbers, and with that I am content because there is hope for the future for my beliefs. Maybe these people will become the Democratic and Republican representatives of tomorrow.

But when you look at the s*** each party has up for their nomination, there's not much else outside of Paul for a person that believes in the virtues of small government. George W. Bush has reformed the Republican party into this Keynesian big-government wonderland where increasingly more decisions are centralized into the executive, the legislative branch has lost a significant amount of power, and spending and new government programs are the solution to all problems. The Democrats have completely lost the plot and look at all the spending Bush approved as "not enough".

So who am I supposed to support? Neither party's establishment represents me.

And then there is the potential of a Clinton-Giuliani election. If that occurs, I'm going to go in a hole, curl into a ball, and cry. It would be the clearest signal to me that this country as far as being a great power is done and over with, we would have jumped the shark, and at some point we will have our Suez Canal Crisis and when it occurs it will not be pretty. I'll just stand on the sidelines and wait for everyone else to realize it.

Well then you aren't one of the cult-like Paul supporters.

But they still are regardless out there. The InTrade numbers are proof of this, as it shows there are many people willing to throw their money away betting on him. Maybe your area isn't full of the folks hanging endless amounts of Ron Paul Revolution signs out in public areas that get removed in a day, but mine sure is.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 10:38:04 PM »

The rationale of most of the Ron Paul supporters I've come across is this:

"Clinton, Giuliani, and the rest are politicians, which means they'll lie and pander for votes and money. Ron Paul just tells you what he thinks, and I like that better."

So, you're in a cult if you like someone who's not corrupt? What a sad view you have, BRTD.

No, it's not why they like him. It's the way many behave and their unhealthy dedication to him.
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