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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2004, 09:57:49 AM »

No.

The generation that was oppressed (not really oppressed but looked down on) by other canadians is dying off.  The newer generations sees no reason to.
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2007, 04:19:14 PM »

50/50 chance. IF we get a big economic depression and Canada doesn't get competent leadership...
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2007, 04:22:19 PM »

Scotland has probably leapfrogged Quebec in the 'likelyhood of independence' stakes these past few years. Doesn't mean that that will happen either.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2007, 09:22:44 PM »

Will Quebec ever secede from Canada? If so, when?
I hope so.  Feck the French.  They're not real Canadians.
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2007, 09:24:19 PM »

Probably not but I wish they did. Then America would have a chance fo take over English Canada.

hahaha!

Which brings up an interesting question.  If Quebec DID secede, are there any other provinces that might think joining the USA was a good idea?  Lets hear from you Canadians out there.

I think BC would probably be the most likely (besides Québec) to break away from Canada.  There's a strong sense of alienation from the federal government here; a lot of people think that Ottawa thinks that we don't matter.

However, while BC is the most likely to, I don't personally think any province would go for it.  Québec already put it up to a referendum and it was shot down, and there's even an entire party in Québec whose entire platform is pretty much secession from Canada (the Bloc Québecois).  The BQ sometimes even gets a majority of the seats in Québec, as was the case in the last general election, and the referendum still failed.  Even if it did succeed sometime later, the fact is that it's not a widely supported idea.  I don't think a Québec secession would provoke a domino effect.

The bottom line is that from what I know, even people who live in provinces that feel alienated from the federal government still feel a strong sense of attachment to Canada itself, so I personally doubt that any province will be going anywhere.
Clearly you've not been educated on Alberta.
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2007, 11:14:47 PM »

Will Quebec ever secede from Canada? If so, when?
I hope so.  Feck the French.  They're not real Canadians.

hahaha. Takes one to know one I suppose.
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2007, 11:57:55 PM »

I just wrote an essay for school on why I think Quebec's secession is inevitable. If I lived in Quebec I would probably be for it, but I'm less sure about that than I am about it seceeding.
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2007, 01:03:47 AM »

Will Quebec ever secede from Canada? If so, when?
I hope so.  Feck the French.  They're not real Canadians.

hahaha. Takes one to know one I suppose.
Correct.  I have a French background.
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2007, 02:55:53 AM »

Quebec Secession becomes less likely with each passing decade and with each lost referendum. Immigrants who want to be Canadian and speak English are moving into Canada at a rapid pace, even into Quebec. At the same time, the French-Quebecois population has a low birthrate. A hundred years from now, French will only be spoken in a few remote rural areas, and the idea of Quebec secession will be forgotten or looked upon as laughable.
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2007, 03:04:43 AM »

Almost as stupid and absurd as Scottish Independence, at least people in Quebec can speak thier own language.
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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2007, 01:18:56 PM »

Quebec Secession becomes less likely with each passing decade and with each lost referendum. Immigrants who want to be Canadian and speak English are moving into Canada at a rapid pace, even into Quebec. At the same time, the French-Quebecois population has a low birthrate. A hundred years from now, French will only be spoken in a few remote rural areas, and the idea of Quebec secession will be forgotten or looked upon as laughable.

Since the 1970s, the % speaking French has remained stable.

http://www.spl.gouv.qc.ca/publications/statistiques/tableau.html#Taux%20de%20bilinguisme%20(fran%E7ais-anglais)%20au%20Qu%E9bec

http://www.stat.gouv.qc.ca/donstat/societe/demographie/migrt_poplt_imigr/606.htm

http://www.spl.gouv.qc.ca/publications/statistiques/tableau.html#R%E9partition%20des%20francophones

And older voters tend to vote against sovereignty.

http://www.queensu.ca/cora/polls/2004/November4-quebec_sovereignty_support_up.pdf

Also, recent polls show support for sovereignty increasing since the late 1990s.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/04/27/sovereignty-poll050427.html#skip300x250

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070219/wl_nm/quebec_dc

http://www.irpp.org/po/archive/sep06/brock.pdf

http://media.www.mcgilltribune.com/media/storage/paper234/news/2007/02/27/News/National.Quebec.Elections.Kickstart.The.Smearing-2744160.shtml

http://www.genx40.com/archives/2007/march/heknownotofwhat
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2007, 02:54:51 PM »

Quebec Secession becomes less likely with each passing decade and with each lost referendum. Immigrants who want to be Canadian and speak English are moving into Canada at a rapid pace, even into Quebec. At the same time, the French-Quebecois population has a low birthrate. A hundred years from now, French will only be spoken in a few remote rural areas, and the idea of Quebec secession will be forgotten or looked upon as laughable.

wtf? French is more spoken in Quebec than ever before. Why don't you look at the stats before you come up with outlandish statements such as that.
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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2007, 03:20:38 PM »

Almost as stupid and absurd as Scottish Independence, at least people in Quebec can speak thier own language.

If language was the only criteria for nationhood, then Irish and American independence would have been stupid as well.
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2007, 04:09:56 PM »

I strongly support it, because I think Canada is too great a country to be saddled with Quebec.
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2007, 04:18:10 PM »

just like how the US needs to not be saddled with Dixie or Utah.
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2007, 04:21:37 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2007, 05:27:29 PM by SoFA Gabu »

If I lived in Quebec I would probably be for it

Why?  Quebec receives a ridiculously disproportionate amount of concessions from the federal government, and still they whine and threaten secession.

bunch of ingrates, all of them, mumble mumble...
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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2007, 05:25:37 PM »

Quebec is Canada's version of dixie.
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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2007, 06:59:01 PM »

If I lived in Quebec I would probably be for it

Why?  Quebec receives a ridiculously disproportionate amount of concessions from the federal government, and still they whine and threaten secession.

bunch of ingrates, all of them, mumble mumble...

Welcome to the club... ever countries got em

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