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« on: December 21, 2007, 05:22:53 PM »

I note with interest that several forumites believe Hillary can win Arkansas.  Is she not viscerally hated throughout the South?  Or is this really old news?  I know Virginia is turning purple.  Florida always has been.  But would Mrs. Clinton, even with Wes Clark as her running mate, defeat the Reverend Huckabee in Arkansas?

I'm asking because I honestly haven't a clue.  I know Arkansas has almost all Democrats in higher office right now...but like North Dakota, don't they split the ticket when it comes to the Presidency?

Your thoughts are valued...
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2007, 05:25:27 PM »

If both of them are nominated then it would be on a Knife-Edge. But if they both nominated different candidates, it would depend on who those candidates are. I would say if Huckaboom likewise with Hillary wasn't nominated then it would lean Democratic very slightly.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 05:26:02 PM »

There was a poll a few months ago that had her leading by 20 points or so IIRC. There's data to support the claim.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 05:30:10 PM »

The good news for Republicans is that Huck would carry Arkansas.  The bad news is he'd lose about 35 other states.  LOL
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 05:35:10 PM »

If it is Hillary against Huckabee, then the race could go to either person; I'd say it leans Huckabee.  If it is Hillary versus any other Republican, than she will win.  Likewise for Huckabee.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 05:37:55 PM »

Huckabee would crush Clinton in Arkansas. The race would be close with most of the other GOP candidates. I would certainly give her an edge over Romney and Giuliani though.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »

Since the south tends to be more conservative than any other area of the country, any woman candidate is liable to have a tougher time there. The only states where I'd give her a chance in the south are those with large urban centers (i.e. VA, NC, GA, FL, and maybe TN and LA). Her prior residency in AR might help there too, but I'd expect Huckabee to beat her there.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 05:56:30 PM »

If it is Hillary against Huckabee, then the race could go to either person; I'd say it leans Huckabee.  If it is Hillary versus any other Republican, than she will win.  Likewise for Huckabee.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2007, 07:09:46 PM »

Since the south tends to be more conservative than any other area of the country, any woman candidate is liable to have a tougher time there. The only states where I'd give her a chance in the south are those with large urban centers (i.e. VA, NC, GA, FL, and maybe TN and LA). Her prior residency in AR might help there too, but I'd expect Huckabee to beat her there.

wait a minute...hillary with a chance in ga, la and nc? WTH?
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2007, 08:14:57 PM »

Hillary wins AR against everyone except Huckabee, where it'd be close, favouring the Huckster.

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2007, 08:54:08 PM »

Huckabee would crush Clinton in Arkansas.

You sure about that? Clinton somehow has stayed very popular in Arkansas, while Huckabee never seemed to have very high approvals when he was governor.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 08:57:16 PM »

Huckabee would crush Clinton in Arkansas.

You sure about that? Clinton somehow has stayed very popular in Arkansas, while Huckabee never seemed to have very high approvals when he was governor.

He just likes saying Hillary and crush in the same sentence.

It would be very close in the Hill/Huck race - probably 3-4% in it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2007, 10:48:16 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2007, 10:56:05 PM by Ogre Mage »

There is little evidence to suggest Clinton would be "crushed" by Huckabee in Arkansas.  It would be a close race.  Rather, the evidence suggests Clinton would crush all other Republicans in Arkansas.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2007, 12:18:26 AM »

Huck by 5%
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2007, 12:20:28 AM »

Ridiculously close I cant even make a decision, so it might be the Florida of 2008...maybuh?
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2007, 12:38:09 AM »

I think it leans Huckabee if he's up against Clinton but with any other Republican she would win handily.
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2007, 01:47:52 AM »

She could help herself with Wes Clark as her running mate.  But I still think Huckabee wins Arkansas. 

Thanks everyone for the good input.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2007, 12:13:07 PM »



by 3 or 4% Hick would get 51%. Maybe 52%. Still, the GOP cannot afford Arkansas to be a real swing state. If Hick doesn't get it, it will be Clinton by 52-53%.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2007, 12:19:52 PM »

Even against Huckabee, Clinton would win it.  Huckabee is a nobody who won't win, and Arkansans realize it.  The Clintons are their chance to rule the whole country, and they remember it.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2007, 06:31:02 PM »

Even against Huckabee, Clinton would win it.  Huckabee is a nobody who won't win, and Arkansans realize it.  The Clintons are their chance to rule the whole country, and they remember it.


I don't care for either one, but I would choose Hillary if I had to.  Still, I am not sure ENOUGH Arkansans will remember it.  Given the choice between Hillary and any of the R's, I hope all America remembers.  But she and Bill are so viscerally hated and loathed, especially in the Bible Belt, that I am not sure they would stand a chance against the Reverend. 

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2007, 07:02:59 PM »

Since the south tends to be more conservative than any other area of the country, any woman candidate is liable to have a tougher time there. The only states where I'd give her a chance in the south are those with large urban centers (i.e. VA, NC, GA, FL, and maybe TN and LA). Her prior residency in AR might help there too, but I'd expect Huckabee to beat her there.

wait a minute...hillary with a chance in ga, la and nc? WTH?

Yes, she has a chance in those states. I'm not saying she'll win them, just that she has a shot.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2007, 11:38:56 PM »

The polling is showing NC is very much in play.

The numbers in NC have the Rep number between 47 and 49, with undecideds and "IND" votes high. The removal of the Bush factor will be huge.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2007, 11:42:11 PM »

Here is Hillary v. Huckabee in the South:
Virginia: Hillary 51-49
Tennessee: Huckabee 52-48
North Carolina: Huckabee 52-48
South Carolina: Huckabee 61-39
Georgia: Huckabee 58-42

Florida: Hillary 51-49
Alabama: Huckabee 60-40
Mississippi: Huckabee 56-44
Arkansas: Huckabee 49-48
Louisiana: Huckabee 58-42
Texas: Huckabee 61-39
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2007, 01:10:35 AM »

Here is Hillary v. Huckabee in the South:
Virginia: Hillary 51-49
Tennessee: Huckabee 52-48
North Carolina: Huckabee 52-48
South Carolina: Huckabee 61-39
Georgia: Huckabee 58-42

Florida: Hillary 51-49
Alabama: Huckabee 60-40
Mississippi: Huckabee 56-44
Arkansas: Huckabee 49-48
Louisiana: Huckabee 58-42
Texas: Huckabee 61-39


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