Bush Approval vs Terror Alerts

[freedomburns]

Really StatesRights.  I have respect for you, but that posting is beyond the pale.  No one should wish for any act of terrorism.  This is rabid partisanship of the sort I have complained of previously.  The partisanship becomes so intense, and so like a game that winning becomes the only important thing.  Liberals are not the enemy.  Progressives are not worse than terrorists.

If Kucinich were President we would have a very just and peaceful society were everyone would prosper.  Apparently that would be worse to you than a terrorist  attack that kills twice what 9/11 did.

Meanwhile, you go around like some wizened old crone calling newbies "trolls".  Sheesh!

freedomburns

[freedomburns]

Interesting graph showing Bush's approaval rating and the timing of the Terror Alerts. Also shows which polls have strayed far from the median of a wide range of polls.

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/7638/aproval_vs_alert_chart.gif

It appears to me that the most consistantly near the median is Pew, the one that strays the most - American Research Group.

This is an awesome chart md.  Interesting to study.  It also looks like Gallup is consistently too high and NBC is consistently low.

[freedomburns]

Their is no proof whatsoever that Bush releases terror alerts for political gain.

Riiiight…and the correlations that this chart shows between them must be purely coincidental, too.  Pure coincidence.  Just like the fact that the terror alerts seem to be released based on shoddy old intelligence at the most politically opportune moments for the Republicans.  Like, for instance, two days after Kerry announces his VP running mate, or maybe three days after the end of the Democratic convention.  Hmm.   And I say again, hmm.

freedomburns

[freedomburns]

You are right and oh so right! I am afraid of the far left. I watch their garbage on TV and read about the groups that are on the left such as ELF and moveon.org. And you can call it paranoia if you wish but I do fear for the future of our nation by groups like these. You can call me shallow or whatever thats ok. But most of the regular conservative posters who agree with me have given up arguing the facts anymore because Democrats don't want to hear it. You can question my knowledge of history but I assure you that would be wrong as I have read loads and loads of history. Most of the good conservative posters such as Ford, MarkDel and Soulty among others no longer post in the 2004 Election thread as they see it as a waste of time. Most of us post in the other sections of this forum such as US General Discussion, History or Fantasy politics, which I guess you should check out if you wish. I am probably going to stop posting in this section to and just let the lefters have it to babble on with their "Hate Bush" sentiments. You say freedomburns rocks but he is one of the most paranoid of the posters and examples would be "Bush will steal the election" and garbage that points to Bush somehow taking over the government or that somehow Bush knew that 9/11 was going to happen. Or he did nothing about it and ignored the threat...regardless of how much information Clinton sat on and other things Clinton covered up about Al Qaeda and their role in attacks in our nation. I am my own man and if some on my side disagree with me thats ok. But to call me "shallow" and "paranoid" yet say "FreedomBurns rocks" is kind of hypocritical.

Hey wait a minute you blatant hypocrite.  You can post whatever you want, and people can take it or leave it right?  But can I also take or leave the mischaracterizations about me that you write in your posts?  

If you can't tell the difference between my serious points where I cite sources and facts and my tongue-in-cheek rants about Bush declaring martial law if Cheney gives him permission to do it, then that's your problem.  

I am not an ideologue.  I have already stated that I am extremely partisan, but not for the Dems or the Republicans, for the Greens, and that places me far to the left of most Dems.  

I post here because I like the fact that there are great posters like JF and MarkDel and Soulty who do an excellent job of holding up their side.  I have great respect for each of their intellectual abilities and it does give me pause that such smart men can hold view that are so diametrically opposed to mine.

I am not above being turned around on issues.  I have been swayed away from my rabid anti-gun position by debating on that issue with people.  I am still anti-gun, but I see why some feel it is important not to regulate.  I like this forum and it’s high level of intelligence (generally) because it forces me to do research to see if my rabid far-left positions are based on good evidence.  I am open-minded and willing to modify my positions with new information.

I have more respect for people who argue with facts and reason, and less for those who let their emotions get carried away.  Although I must admit that I can get passionate and hard-headed about certain issues, too.  I have no idea what the DU forum is, and it sounds like I don’t want to find out.  I found this site through natural curiosity in politics and Amerikan history.

I would enjoy it more it if people would try to argue with facts and site reliable sources.  I am in the middle of compiling a response to JF’s challenges to me.  It’s coming.  It’s not as much fun as browsing around and bombthrowing, but I am committed to supporting my statements.  

I already basically won our first tussle over whether or not Mansoor Ijaz was credible.  JF has never responded with an attempt to shore up his argument, and therefore Fox News must by implication be using shoddy journalism and regular “experts” who spout BS.  (See below)

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And JF and I reached a good stopping point on our debate about whether Barbara Lee had good grounds to vote against the first bill for funding the so called “War on Terrorism”.  So we are just in between rounds right now.  I am not sluffing off yet.  Give me a sec.  His posting on Iraq sponsoring terrorism was like three pages long...

freedomburns

[freedomburns]

We left-wingers have suffered through 16 years of Republican Presidents in the last 24.  We have lost control of all three branches of government, including the House of Representatives, something no one expected.  And it looks like it will stay that way for a while.  We have little hope of getting a majority in the Wahpreme Court (as you so artfully call it) possibly for decades to come.  Clarence Thomas is 56 years old, and will probably live to a ripe old age from staying active chasing skirts around the office and drinking lots of Pepsi seasoned with pubic hairs.

All of the branches of government will remain in Republican hands for the foreseeable future, almost certainly, except one.  There is maybe a 50-65% chance that we can take back the Executive Branch this year.  We may very well lose.  It might happen.  And we will be forced to whine (really loud) about it for the next four years.

If that is what you seem to be complaining about, then maybe you need to go outside and take a walk and breath the fresh air my friend.  In case you didn't notice, YOU ARE WINNING.

There is no culture war.  That's right wing propaganda.  What the Republicans are doing is tremendously effective.  They play the political game masterfully.  They control all of the mainstream corporate media outlets and make them say what they want and avoid what is too damaging in the interests of "national security".  This is the most secretive government that we have ever had.

It is amazing how they have controlled public opinion for so long.  If you analyze their platform it holds very little populist draw for those who make less than $200,000.00 a year or are not born again Christians.  And yet somehow they play up the differences and podge together a coalition of people under the banner "Republican" that has substantially ruled our govenment for most of the last two decades and is undeniably in full control right now.

My suggestiion is to stop whining.  I feel like this forum has a majority of right-wingers and you feel like it has a majority of left-wngers, so it is probably pretty even.  Leave the whining to us, especially if we lose in November.  We are the ones who have a right to whine right now.  

freedomburns