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Robespierre's Jaw
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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2008, 02:53:52 AM »

The scenario is all most COMPLETE. A question to all those involved, who do you want your Veep to be?
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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2008, 04:22:24 AM »
« Edited: January 01, 2008, 04:29:31 AM by Supersoulty »

Title: Governor
First Name: Chris
Last Name: Soult
Sex: Male
State: PA
Age: 48
Starting Funds: $100,000,000
Party: Republican
Candidate Image: Rudy Giuliani

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Leadership: 4
Integrity: 4
Experience: 3
Issue Familiarity: 4
Charisma: 4
Stamina: 4
Debating: 3
VP: Congressman Eliseo Lopez, Texas (+1 Leadership)

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Candidate Blurb:

The retired two term governor and former Allegheny County Executive, Soult has spent the length of his political career in active executive positions.  Not always popular, and known for not always playing well with others, Soult has none-the-less, secured a reputation as a solid and visionary leader.

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Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.

Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.


Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.


Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.


Stem Cell Research
Unrestricted Stem Cell Research with full federal funding.
Large scale funding for stem cell research. Few restrictions.
Let states choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
Limited funding for adult stem cell research.
Ban all stem cell research that requires aborted fetuses!


Ecology
The environment is a huge concern and should be priority #1!
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.


Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.


Free Trade
We need large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!


Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!


Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
We need to constitutionally ban same-sex marriage.


Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!

Bush Doctrine
No wars of aggression and Empire! Small military for defense only!
Global Test: UN will decide if action is legitimate.
Only go to war if we or our allies are attacked directly!
Make sure we can back up a pre-emptive war with solid intelligence.
Pre-emptive war: Act unilaterally to defend America's interests.


Homeland Security
The Office of Homeland Security is not necessary.
Fund the Office of Homeland security only when extremely necessary.
Make Homeland Security a priority only when an attack is imminent.
Homeland Security should be a priority when evidence demands it.
Homeland security should be #1 priority, regardless of terror alert level.


Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.


Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.


Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.

Unemployment
Raise taxes to fund government incentives to employers.
Increase goverment retraining programs to increase skilled labor.
Lower taxes to push the economy and increase government retraining.
Economic growth will curb unemployment, no government programs.
Lowering taxes will encourage economic growth and create jobs.


Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
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I would love to see this for the version with primaries if you have a chance.
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2008, 03:30:52 PM »

For my Veep, how about Bill Richardson?
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2008, 03:35:45 PM »

I think I'll run with Joe Lieberman.
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2008, 03:41:22 PM »

I want Obama as my V.P.
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2008, 04:30:31 PM »

Jay Rockefeller(My candidate is low on experience.)
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2008, 04:44:01 PM »

Hey Guys,

Here's a sneak preview of the Atlas for America: President Forever Scenario. I tested it out between me (Rockefeller) vs. hughento (Chris Dodd) vs. Verily (Bloomberg). Here's what happened.

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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2008, 04:47:49 PM »

That is great! To bad I don't have it to play around with it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2008, 05:42:46 PM »

Here's another test of the scenario. This time between Don Johnson and NDN. Johnson=Republican, NDN=Democrat.

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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2008, 05:44:42 PM »

Title: Mr.
First Name: Chris
Last Name: Ilikeverin
Sex: Male
State: Indiana
Age: 17
Starting Funds: $100,000,000
Party: Democrat
Candidate Image: Macaulay Culkin

Leadership: 5
Integrity: 5
Experience: 1
Issue Familiarity: 4
Charisma: 5
Stamina: 2
Debating: 3

Candidate Blurb: By a bizarre constitutional loophole and crazy hijinks, Mr. Chris Ilikeverin is eligible to run for President!

Abortion
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.

Affirmative Action
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.

Balanced Budget
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.

Business Tax
Increase business taxation.


Stem Cell Research
Large scale funding for stem cell research. Few restrictions.

Ecology
The environment is a huge concern and should be priority !

Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.

Free Trade
Most markets should be open.

Gun Control
Ban all guns!

Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.

Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.

Bush Doctrine
Global Test: UN will decide if action is legitimate.

Homeland Security
Make Homeland Security a priority only when an attack is imminent.


Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.

Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.

Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!

Unemployment
Increase goverment retraining programs to increase skilled labor.

Terrorism
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2008, 05:52:12 PM »

Better than I expected going by my real (non watered down) positions. One thing though, I tried using the electoral calculator for that map and got 187 (D)/351 (R).

NDN you were almost the winner in Illinois and West Virginia but you lost by about 0.5% of the vote to Don Johnson.
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2008, 05:52:54 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2008, 05:54:28 PM by Temporary Republican »

I wonder how I lost California but won Missouri running on that platform. Also my posts keep on getting deleted randomly.
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2008, 05:55:55 PM »

Are you going to run everyone?
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2008, 06:02:34 PM »


Yes. But those are just some sneak peaks at the scenario. I'll send it out tomorrow. Version 1.1 anyway Wink.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2008, 06:13:45 PM »


Yes. But those are just some sneak peaks at the scenario. I'll send it out tomorrow. Version 1.1 anyway Wink.

Are you going to run it like a tournament, or just have each of us run against the other person?
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2008, 06:16:45 PM »


Yes. But those are just some sneak peaks at the scenario. I'll send it out tomorrow. Version 1.1 anyway Wink.

Are you going to run it like a tournament, or just have each of us run against the other person?

It's just a scenario for President Forever for the present time. I'll consider such options to host a tournament.
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2008, 06:41:14 PM »

Just use the following stats:


Title: Governor
First Name: Peter
Last Name: Diffin
Sex: Male
State: Washington
Age: 44
Starting Funds: $100,000,000
Party: Democrat
Candidate Image: John F. Kennedy


Leadership: 4
Integrity: 4
Experience: 3
Issue Familiarity: 4
Charisma: 3
Stamina: 3
Debating: 4

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Candidate Blurb: A bit of a dark horse candidate, Democrat Peter Diffin was elected narrowly to governor of Washington after a popular yet controversial term as mayor of Seattle. He was known for being a more fiscally conservative Democrat capable of appealing to moderates (including Republicans), yet has become quite popular amongst grassroots social liberals overtime.
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Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.

Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.


Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.


Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation. (Close Loopholes & Trustbust)
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.


Stem Cell Research
Unrestricted Stem Cell Research with full federal funding.
Large scale funding for stem cell research. Few restrictions.
Let states choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
Limited funding for adult stem cell research.
Ban all stem cell research that requires aborted fetuses!


Ecology
The environment is a huge concern and should be priority #1!
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.


Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.


Free Trade
We need large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!


Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!


Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
We need to constitutionally ban same-sex marriage.


Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!

Bush Doctrine
No wars of aggression and Empire! Small military for defense only!
Global Test: UN will decide if action is legitimate.
Only go to war if we or our allies are attacked directly!
Make sure we can back up a pre-emptive war with solid intelligence.
Pre-emptive war: Act unilaterally to defend America's interests.


Homeland Security
The Office of Homeland Security is not necessary.
Fund the Office of Homeland security only when extremely necessary.
Make Homeland Security a priority only when an attack is imminent.
Homeland Security should be a priority when evidence demands it.
Homeland security should be #1 priority, regardless of terror alert level.


Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets. (Depends on deficit though)
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.


Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.


Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.

Unemployment
Raise taxes to fund government incentives to employers.
Increase government retraining programs to increase skilled labor. (Under Employment is a problem)
Lower taxes to push the economy and increase government retraining.
Economic growth will curb unemployment, no government programs.
Lowering taxes will encourage economic growth and create jobs.


Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.

hmmm... this is interesting, we might run into problems if we both happen to be the current governor of Washington.  Wink
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2008, 06:42:00 PM »

Title: Senator
First Name: Earl Andrew
Last Name: Washburn
Sex: Male
State: New York
Age: 42
Starting Funds: $1,000,000,000
Party: Democrat
Candidate Image:
 (Thomas Mulcair)


Leadership: 4
Integrity: 5
Experience: 5
Issue Familiarity: 5
Charisma: 1
Stamina: 1
Debating: 3


Candidate Blurb: A social democrat with all the answers! White, middle class, Protestant.





Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.


Affirmative Action
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.



Balanced Budget
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.



Business Tax
Businesses are taxed the right amount.


Stem Cell Research
Unrestricted Stem Cell Research with full federal funding.



Ecology
The environment is a huge concern and should be priority !



Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.



Free Trade
We need large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.



Gun Control
Ban all guns!



Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.



Immigration

Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.


Bush Doctrine
Global Test: UN will decide if action is legitimate.



Homeland Security
The Office of Homeland Security is not necessary.



Personal Tax
Increase income tax for the rich.


Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.



Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!


Unemployment
Increase goverment retraining programs to increase skilled labor.



Terrorism
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2008, 07:57:23 PM »

Whee! I perform like Anderson! (What was my best state in that scenario, by the way?)
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2008, 08:04:10 PM »

Title: Governor
First Name: Peter
Last Name: McCormick
Sex: Male
State: Vermont
Age: 49
Starting Funds: $100,000,000
Party: Republican
Candidate Image: Dalton McGuinty

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Leadership: 4
Integrity: 4
Experience: 4
Issue Familiarity: 4
Charisma: 3
Stamina: 3
Debating: 4

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Candidate Blurb:

A centrist Republican, can McCormick convince Republicans that he is the right choice to win the election?

Abortion
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.

Affirmative Action
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.

Balanced Budget
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.

Business Tax
Reduce business taxation.

Stem Cell Research
Let states choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.

Ecology
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.

Education
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.

Free Trade
Most markets should be open.

Gun Control
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.

Same-Sex Marriage
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.

Immigration
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.

Bush Doctrine
Make sure we can back up a pre-emptive war with solid intelligence.

Homeland Security
Homeland Security should be a priority when evidence demands it.

Personal Tax
Reduce income tax across the board.

Public Health Care
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.

Renewable Energy
We should focus on renewable energy sources.

Unemployment
Lower taxes to push the economy and increase government retraining.

Terrorism
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2008, 08:51:43 PM »

BTW, if not too late, I'd like my veep pick to be Gov. Sonny Perdue (R-GA)
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« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2008, 01:12:16 AM »

Edited my profile to add a veep and to make sure I have the appropriate number of points.
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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2008, 03:27:33 AM »

Whee! I perform like Anderson! (What was my best state in that scenario, by the way?)

You managed to get 23.3% in Texas. And only 12% in Maine. Don't know how that played out.

BTW, if not too late, I'd like my veep pick to be Gov. Sonny Perdue (R-GA)

Not too late at all Andrew.
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2008, 05:01:38 PM »

Sorry for doing this, but can I change my VP to Joe Biden and my candidate image to James Eastland.
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« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2008, 07:00:04 PM »

Title: Senator
First Name: Zack
Last Name: Nelson
Sex: Male
State: Minnesota
Age: 35
Starting Funds: $100,000,000
Party: Democratic
Candidate Image:

Leadership: 5
Integrity: 4
Experience: 3
Issue Familiarity: 4
Charisma: 3
Stamina: 3
Debating: 3

VP: Russ Feingold

Candidate Blurb:

A staunchly liberal Senator from Midwest, Nelson has staked a reputation for himself as both a fighter for liberal causes and an enforcer against his own party members who cooperate with this other side. This strong reputation won him the nomination.

Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.

Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.

Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.

Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.

Stem Cell Research
Unrestricted Stem Cell Research with full federal funding.
Large scale funding for stem cell research. Few restrictions.
Let states choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
Limited funding for adult stem cell research.
Ban all stem cell research that requires aborted fetuses!

Ecology
The environment is a huge concern and should be priority #1!
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.

Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.

Free Trade
We need large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!

Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!

Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
We need to constitutionally ban same-sex marriage.

Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!

Bush Doctrine
No wars of aggression and Empire! Small military for defense only!
Global Test: UN will decide if action is legitimate.
Only go to war if we or our allies are attacked directly!
Make sure we can back up a pre-emptive war with solid intelligence.
Pre-emptive war: Act unilaterally to defend America's interests.

Homeland Security
The Office of Homeland Security is not necessary.
Fund the Office of Homeland security only when extremely necessary.
Make Homeland Security a priority only when an attack is imminent.
Homeland Security should be a priority when evidence demands it.
Homeland security should be #1 priority, regardless of terror alert level.

Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.

Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.

Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.

Unemployment
Raise taxes to fund government incentives to employers.
Increase goverment retraining programs to increase skilled labor.
Lower taxes to push the economy and increase government retraining.
Economic growth will curb unemployment, no government programs.
Lowering taxes will encourage economic growth and create jobs.

Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
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