Religious Groups and Politics

[nclib]

I've started a list of political leanings of religious groups. Feel free to add to this list...


Southern Baptists--very conservative, though black Baptists are liberal as are some white branches

Pentacostals--very conservative

Mormons--very conservative

Other White Protestants--most denominations lean right, though some lean left

Catholics--Overall a slight liberal lean. Nominal Catholics are liberal; observant Catholics conservative; overall economically liberal

Jews--very liberal except Orthodox Jews who can be socially conservative.

Unitarian Universalists--very liberal

Muslims--very conservative socially, though Dems will be competitive with them due to perceived discrimination.

Atheists/Agnostics--liberal, especially on social issues.

[??????????]

I think you are wrong on black baptists. Although they have been painted as liberal most black baptists I know are against abortion, against gay marriage and are very conservative overall. Economically liberal I may agree with you however.

[Josh/Devilman88]

I think you are wrong on black baptists. Although they have been painted as liberal most black baptists I know are against abortion, against gay marriage and are very conservative overall. Economically liberal I may agree with you however.

yep

[??????????]

Most blacks I have talked to stick with Democrats because they feel the economic benefits are far better. I have converted a few of my close friends however when I tell them about how much better a open market is. I've also been told they really don't trust any white people and party doesn't matter in their view.

[Brambila]

I've started a list of political leanings of religious groups. Feel free to add to this list...


Southern Baptists--very conservative, though black Baptists are liberal as are some white branches

Pentacostals--very conservative

Mormons--very conservative

Other White Protestants--most denominations lean right, though some lean left

Catholics--Overall a slight liberal lean. Nominal Catholics are liberal; observant Catholics conservative; overall economically liberal

Jews--very liberal except Orthodox Jews who can be socially conservative.

Unitarian Universalists--very liberal

Muslims--very conservative socially, though Dems will be competitive with them due to perceived discrimination.

Atheists/Agnostics--liberal, especially on social issues.

If Orthodox Jews are conservative, they'll be both socially and fiscally. Also, Catholics overall are mixed economically- not liberal.

Buddhists- Liberal except for abortion, usually. Nonetheless, they aren't strongly against abortion in the states, and usually put that issue aside.

Hindus Since most hindus in the states are only culturally Hindu, they end up being liberal and paying no attention to social issues that their religion holds.

Orthodox Christians- Those who practice are socially conservative. Otherwise, quite liberal.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It varies a lot... it's probably not a good idea to generalise U.S-wide.

Example: Southern WV is heavily Baptist and over 90% white. It's also strongly Democrat.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

and Protestants are a much more Democratic bloc in Minnesota than Catholics.

[angus]

you forgot:

Muslims - evil murdering bastards, incapable of peaceful coexistence with christians, jews, and hindus, who should be rounded up and sent to death camps.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

and Protestants are a much more Democratic bloc in Minnesota than Catholics.

In northern Kentucky, mainline Protestants tend to be more Democratic than Catholics. Then again, there aren't many mainline Protestants in northern Kentucky.

[opebo]

you forgot:

Muslims - evil murdering bastards, incapable of peaceful coexistence with christians, jews, and hindus, who should be rounded up and sent to death camps.

Wow.

[??????????]

you forgot:

Muslims - evil murdering bastards, incapable of peaceful coexistence with christians, jews, and hindus, who should be rounded up and sent to death camps.

I agree with all of that.

[7,052,770]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.
don't know how observant Kucinich is...

[Kodratos]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.

An observant Catholic is one who follows church doctrine. Therefore it is impossible to be socially liberal and an observant Catholic. Kerry and Kennedy are nominal Catholics. Going to church doesn't make you observant, it makes you a practicing Catholic.

[7,052,770]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.

An observant Catholic is one who follows church doctrine. Therefore it is impossible to be socially liberal and an observant Catholic. Kerry and Kennedy are nominal Catholics. Going to church doesn't make you observant, it makes you a practicing Catholic.

I believe Kerry, Kennedy, and myself all follow church doctrine.  The US Council of Bishops released a document comparing 24 Catholic senator's positions on issues to the church's position.  Who came out with the most matches?  John Kerry.

[Kodratos]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.

An observant Catholic is one who follows church doctrine. Therefore it is impossible to be socially liberal and an observant Catholic. Kerry and Kennedy are nominal Catholics. Going to church doesn't make you observant, it makes you a practicing Catholic.

I believe Kerry, Kennedy, and myself all follow church doctrine.  The US Council of Bishops released a document comparing 24 Catholic senator's positions on issues to the church's position.  Who came out with the most matches?  John Kerry.

That's because the Catholic Church is socialist economically and is against the death penalty. But if you follow church doctrine(all of it, not just what suits you) then you would believe abortion is murder. Just a fact, can't help it. I don't neccisarily agree with that, but that is the doctrine of the Catholic Church.

Also, semi-off topic, John Kerry is pro-choice but has stated he believes life begins at conception. This leads one to believe that John Kerry feels that when a woman is having an abortion she is taking a human life. Now I can understand someone who is prochoice and believes life does not begin at conception, but if that is truly what Kerry believes then he is a scary guy

[Shira]

Last time Gore had a small or a large majority in each and every racial/religious group and subgroup except one: White Protestants.

[nclib]

It varies a lot... it's probably not a good idea to generalise U.S-wide.

Example: Southern WV is heavily Baptist and over 90% white. It's also strongly Democrat.

That's probably the only predominantly white Baptist area that is Democratic. And even it is socially conservative.

[nclib]

Also, semi-off topic, John Kerry is pro-choice but has stated he believes life begins at conception. This leads one to believe that John Kerry feels that when a woman is having an abortion she is taking a human life. Now I can understand someone who is prochoice and believes life does not begin at conception, but if that is truly what Kerry believes then he is a scary guy

The "life" of the fetus is dependent on the mother, therefore it cannot be compared to murder.

Anyhow, quite a few Catholic politicians are anti-abortion but pro-choice.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It varies a lot... it's probably not a good idea to generalise U.S-wide.

Example: Southern WV is heavily Baptist and over 90% white. It's also strongly Democrat.

That's probably the only predominantly white Baptist area that is Democratic. And even it is socially conservative.

Don't you live in David Price's district? I think he's a Baptist, and he's pretty damn liberal socially and economically, although I'm not sure what the makeup of the area is.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Also, semi-off topic, John Kerry is pro-choice but has stated he believes life begins at conception. This leads one to believe that John Kerry feels that when a woman is having an abortion she is taking a human life. Now I can understand someone who is prochoice and believes life does not begin at conception, but if that is truly what Kerry believes then he is a scary guy

unless they don't consider the life of the fetus to be equivalent to the life of a full grown human at that point, more akin to an animal, that's somewhat my position.

[nclib]

It varies a lot... it's probably not a good idea to generalise U.S-wide.

Example: Southern WV is heavily Baptist and over 90% white. It's also strongly Democrat.

That's probably the only predominantly white Baptist area that is Democratic. And even it is socially conservative.

Don't you live in David Price's district? I think he's a Baptist, and he's pretty damn liberal socially and economically, although I'm not sure what the makeup of the area is.

I do live in Price's district, and he is a Baptist. He's pretty liberal, though not extremely so.

I don't know the actual numbers of the district, but it has far more Jews and Catholics than a typical Southern district.

My earlier remark had to do with groups of Baptists being liberal, rather than individuals.

[Brambila]

you forgot:

Muslims - evil murdering bastards, incapable of peaceful coexistence with christians, jews, and hindus, who should be rounded up and sent to death camps.

I agree with all of that.

I pretty much did too.

[Brambila]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.
don't know how observant Kucinich is...

Actually, if you are socially liberal (specifically if you support abortion), then you are not Catholic and a heretic, becuase you don't believe in everything the Church teaches.

[Brambila]

I know quite a few observant Catholics who are socially liberal, myself being one of them. . . .
not to mention John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.

An observant Catholic is one who follows church doctrine. Therefore it is impossible to be socially liberal and an observant Catholic. Kerry and Kennedy are nominal Catholics. Going to church doesn't make you observant, it makes you a practicing Catholic.

I believe Kerry, Kennedy, and myself all follow church doctrine.  The US Council of Bishops released a document comparing 24 Catholic senator's positions on issues to the church's position.  Who came out with the most matches?  John Kerry.

That's because the Catholic Church is socialist economically and is against the death penalty. But if you follow church doctrine(all of it, not just what suits you) then you would believe abortion is murder. Just a fact, can't help it. I don't neccisarily agree with that, but that is the doctrine of the Catholic Church.

Also, semi-off topic, John Kerry is pro-choice but has stated he believes life begins at conception. This leads one to believe that John Kerry feels that when a woman is having an abortion she is taking a human life. Now I can understand someone who is prochoice and believes life does not begin at conception, but if that is truly what Kerry believes then he is a scary guy

The church is definately not socialist economically. They are distributivists, which is different. Distributivism is defined as everyone having the right to own land. Hence, when you turn 18, the government has a responsibility to provide you free land. Otherwise, the Catholic Church is capitalist.

[Brambila]

Also, semi-off topic, John Kerry is pro-choice but has stated he believes life begins at conception. This leads one to believe that John Kerry feels that when a woman is having an abortion she is taking a human life. Now I can understand someone who is prochoice and believes life does not begin at conception, but if that is truly what Kerry believes then he is a scary guy

The "life" of the fetus is dependent on the mother, therefore it cannot be compared to murder.

Anyhow, quite a few Catholic politicians are anti-abortion but pro-choice.

Maybe Nclib will respond to me this time. Dependency does not determine life. If you say that, then a siamese twins are not human because they are dependent on eachother; people who are on life support are not human because they are dependent on a machine; etc.

In addition, the fetus is automatically a human being becuase biogenesis defines it as such.