official Iowa Democratic results thread

[Smash255]

Excellent speech from Obama

[Prez Duke]

here we go with the race card now!

Was he doing a King impression? Like, for serious???

Clinton's speech was much better, more gracious and presidential. And the continuing underdog card is bullsh**t.

Very poor speech.

I don't know, but he sounded like a preacher at some points. It was a good speech, but why bring up the civil rights movement? This is why I hate Democrats ... always playing the race card.

FWIW, I think Clinton will still win the nomination, but the wind is definitely behind him now. He will be revealed for who he is eventually. His shaky positions and the fact that he has avoided any tough interviews and questions still troubles me.

[Nutmeg]

Great.  The Repubs are already complaining about Obama.

[Alaska Thunderfvck]

Great.  The Repubs are already complaining about Obama.

They are worried. Its fine

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Just one more precinct left.


Senator Barack Obama : 37.57%
Senator John Edwards : 29.76%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 29.46%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.11%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.93%
Uncommitted : 0.14%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.02%
Precincts Reporting: 1780 of 1781

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yet to report is Waterloo W4P6 in Black Hawk county. Probably pretty Obama friendly.

[Gabu]

Yet to report is Waterloo W4P6 in Black Hawk county. Probably pretty Obama friendly.

Somehow I don't think much is going to change when it comes in.

[Everett]

Senator Barack Obama : 37.58%
Senator John Edwards : 29.75%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 29.47%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.11%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.93%
Uncommitted : 0.14%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.02%
Precincts Reporting: 1781 of 1781

[JSojourner]

Yet to report is Waterloo W4P6 in Black Hawk county. Probably pretty Obama friendly.

A huge Gravel surge is expected.


::: runs :::

[Sibboleth]

Interesting results

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Interesting results

Interesting results yes. But they're good results especially for Obama supporters! Like myself. This calls me to play Rock the Casbah, because this is what's going to happen in Washington this year!

[Vasall des Midas]

3 - The dislike of Hillary on this board by people with red avatars is interesting.  I find it almost ridiculous actually.  Especially since no one can explain their dislike aside from one comment that she isn't liberal enough.

Every single time Hillary opens her mouth, I feel like it sounds like a calculated, focus-group tested comment.  She gives off this strong "typical slimy politician" vibe that I don't get one bit from Obama.

In 2000 that was said about being the difference between Gore and Bush.  And look how well that turned out for us.  Ok, I'm finally out.

No, in 2000 the difference was that every Bush comment sounded like a calculated, focus-group tested comment that he couldn't quite get straight despite having practiced it in front of the mirror for several hours.
That's because that's what it was.

[Gabu]

Interesting results

Any analysis to offer?  I've been waiting for you to get on to hear things from you about it.

[Sibboleth]

Any analysis to offer?

No

Besides the obvious, Obama seems to have done better than I'd assumed he would in what working class counties Iowa has; because of the way the results be done how much use county numbers are for the Dem race is a little questionable, but it's an indication that his appeal is broader than the soft-lefty stereotype.

Edwards, btw, did badly in such areas, but then he did in 2004 so that's not really news.

If that makes any sense. It probably doesn't. More later.

[Hashemite]

What score did Kucinich and Gravel get anyways?

When can we expect a map?

[Andrew]

What score did Kucinich and Gravel get anyways?

Neither one picked up even one delegate to the county conventions.  Dodd got four.

[Hashemite]

I know, any information on their % score?

[Sibboleth]

I know, any information on their % score?

There is no accurate information for any of the non-major candidates. Sadly.

[Michael Z]

Regarding Obama's win, I believe I speak for many when I say... WOOOO-HOOO!

[Wakie]

3 - The dislike of Hillary on this board by people with red avatars is interesting.  I find it almost ridiculous actually.  Especially since no one can explain their dislike aside from one comment that she isn't liberal enough.

Every single time Hillary opens her mouth, I feel like it sounds like a calculated, focus-group tested comment.  She gives off this strong "typical slimy politician" vibe that I don't get one bit from Obama.

In 2000 that was said about being the difference between Gore and Bush.  And look how well that turned out for us.  Ok, I'm finally out.

No, in 2000 the difference was that every Bush comment sounded like a calculated, focus-group tested comment that he couldn't quite get straight despite having practiced it in front of the mirror for several hours.
That's because that's what it was.

LT, I don't know if you were in the US in 2000.  I spent the year traveling for work and, by chance, was in Austin on election night (a truly bizarre experience for a liberal political junkie such as myself).

Conversations which I had with people in PA, in TX, and all over the country usually went along the lines that most people agreed that Gore was smarter than Bush but they all were confident that Bush would "surround himself with a good team".  7 years later that seems hilarious but that was the mentality.

More importantly though, I repeatedly heard that Gore was robotic and boring but that Bush was "real" and "inspiring".

[Dave Leip]

light purple counties are ties between Clinton and Edwards.  Gray county is tie between Clinton and Obama.  interestingly, Edwards didn't win any congressional districts as his support is split amongst the districts.

[So the Heroes Fall]

So it looks like Illinois Democrats support Obama (duh), Missouri ones support Edwards, Nebraska ones support Hillary and Minnesota ones are mixed (I'd have figured the more liberal DFL party base to be a hotbed of support for Obama but for some reason Hillary seems to be popular in Minnesota. Oh well, all Obama needs is momentum to win here)

Why are the percentages listed so far off from the official ones though?

[Vasall des Midas]

3 - The dislike of Hillary on this board by people with red avatars is interesting.  I find it almost ridiculous actually.  Especially since no one can explain their dislike aside from one comment that she isn't liberal enough.

Every single time Hillary opens her mouth, I feel like it sounds like a calculated, focus-group tested comment.  She gives off this strong "typical slimy politician" vibe that I don't get one bit from Obama.

In 2000 that was said about being the difference between Gore and Bush.  And look how well that turned out for us.  Ok, I'm finally out.

No, in 2000 the difference was that every Bush comment sounded like a calculated, focus-group tested comment that he couldn't quite get straight despite having practiced it in front of the mirror for several hours.
That's because that's what it was.

LT, I don't know if you were in the US in 2000.  I spent the year traveling for work and, by chance, was in Austin on election night (a truly bizarre experience for a liberal political junkie such as myself).

Conversations which I had with people in PA, in TX, and all over the country usually went along the lines that most people agreed that Gore was smarter than Bush but they all were confident that Bush would "surround himself with a good team".  7 years later that seems hilarious but that was the mentality.

More importantly though, I repeatedly heard that Gore was robotic and boring but that Bush was "real" and "inspiring".

Thing is, I find and found it really hard to comprehend how anybody could think Bush "real" in 2000. He seemed to be taking fakeness to a new dimension.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Obama won Clinton County. Good one.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

light purple counties are ties between Clinton and Edwards.  Gray county is tie between Clinton and Obama.  interestingly, Edwards didn't win any congressional districts as his support is split amongst the districts.

Your results say 98% reported. Maybe you should use this Iowa Democratic site that is at 100%.

http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/