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« on: January 03, 2008, 03:33:25 pm »
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because I thought it'd be a good idea to have two separate threads.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 03:34:21 pm »
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Will the entrance poll results be discussed in here?  Or is it only for the real results?
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 03:35:42 pm »
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Will the entrance poll results be discussed in here?  Or is it only for the real results?

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 05:40:08 pm »
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I don't know if this is the place to put it, but MSNBC says that Clinton campaign is expecting second.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 05:40:52 pm »
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I don't know if this is the place to put it, but MSNBC says that Clinton campaign is expecting second.

Interesting....
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 05:56:32 pm »
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I don't know if this is the place to put it, but MSNBC says that Clinton campaign is expecting second.

Interesting....

Nah, it's just spin. If she comes first then can then claim that she did better than expected. If she comes second they can then pass off (or try to) a bad result as the expected one. And if she comes third, they can attempt to pass off a fiasco as being merely slightly worse than expected.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 05:57:26 pm »
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When are we supposed to start seeing results? As soon as individual precincts are done voting, when the entire caucus is over, or do we just get the entire thing from the Iowa Democratic party at once?
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 05:57:48 pm »
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When does it start? 7PM?
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 05:59:37 pm »
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As I posted in another thread:

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/03/545314.aspx

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The caucuses will be called to order at 7:30 pm ET (6:30 pm local time) on the Democratic side, and they begin at 8:00 pm ET (7:00 pm local time) on the GOP side.

Presumably the entrance polls will come out *very* soon after the caucuses are called to order.

Don't know exactly when real results will come out, but here's a thread from 2004 discussing Iowa results:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=426.15

and zorkpolitics posted the first results (13% of precincts reporting in) at 8:47pm Eastern.  Also, this blog post from National Review:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTY0OGJjMGUwYzNkNmFlMWYwN2Y3YjBjOTk5MWIzNTg=

has 32% of precincts reporting at 8:54 Eastern back in 2004.  Don't know if the caucus start time was the same back then, and don't know if the GOP results would come out on a similar timeline.
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 06:03:25 pm »
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Found this from 2004:

http://www.johnson-county.com/auditor/voter/caucus04.htm

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The Democrats and Republicans have both scheduled the caucuses for 6:30 p.m., a change from the traditional 7:00 start time.

(Presumably, they're talking about Central Time there.)

So that means that four years ago, the actual results started coming out fast just ~1hr 15 min. or so after the caucuses started.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2008, 06:08:42 pm »
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Bill Richardson just went on CNN and announced no second-flow endorsement.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 06:09:14 pm »
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I hear we will probably get the Republican results in first.
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2008, 06:10:47 pm »
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Yeah, that'd make sense, since it's just a straw poll. I'd imagine the Democratic vote for president takes 10 or 20 minutes, depending on how many people are there.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2008, 06:11:43 pm »
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eraserhead-almost certainly, due to the multi-staged process the Democrats use.
lief-the fastest take about 20 minutes. They can go for over two hours.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2008, 06:13:11 pm »
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Really? Wow. Does that include the other issues they vote on, after the presidential candidate?
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 06:14:34 pm »
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Hugh, who will you be voting for this time around?

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2008, 06:15:25 pm »
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Really? Wow. Does that include the other issues they vote on, after the presidential candidate?

Yep. That doesnt mean the results are know after the presidential nomination, though...
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2008, 06:16:14 pm »
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http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/

Also, the caucus guidelines specifically tell the precinct captains to tall the toll-free results hotline before they proceed to other business.
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2008, 06:17:06 pm »
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Hugh, who will you be voting for this time around?

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I was thinking of voting Dean, but I think Edwards would be better because he can win Kentucky but Dean couldn't.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2008, 06:22:35 pm »
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I'm glad we'll get the Republican results first. I'm very interested in seeing what they are but really they are just the appetizer tonight (so to speak).
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 06:29:06 pm »
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I dont remember from previous times, but will we learn what the first results were vs. the final results...after the below 15% people were asked to pick 2nd choices
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 07:09:11 pm »
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Politico says their sources say Dodd told Fox that if he doesn't get fourth tonight "he'll be doing to Hartford".
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 07:10:44 pm »
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Politico says their sources say Dodd told Fox that if he doesn't get fourth tonight "he'll be doing to Hartford".

In other words, Dodd will be "doing to Hartford"...
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 07:12:04 pm »
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Politico says their sources say Dodd told Fox that if he doesn't get fourth tonight "he'll be doing to Hartford".

In other words, Dodd will be "doing to Hartford"...

Oops, "going" to Hartford.
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2008, 07:13:42 pm »
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WOI in Des Moines just mentioned that there is a possible under the table "deal" between Dodd, Edwards and Clinton that Dodd and Edwards supporters will go to Clinton or Clinton and Dodd supporters will go to Edwards in 5 of the largest IA counties.
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