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« on: January 17, 2008, 01:01:15 PM »
« edited: February 09, 2008, 05:26:17 PM by Verily »
Repeal of the Military Enlargement Act

The Military Enlargement Act (F.L. 8-13) is hereby repealed.

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Jake
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 01:35:05 PM »
I'm not seeing the problem with the Act. An extra Ranger battalion is a great asset to our armed forces for a small price.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 01:02:34 AM »
Just a reminder that this bill is still on the floor.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 08:30:46 AM »
Quote from: Jake on January 17, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
I'm not seeing the problem with the Act. An extra Ranger battalion is a great asset to our armed forces for a small price.

Or rather a great asset to the forces of the United States. It's all in the wording. Theres no reference to our armed forces in the bill.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 12:49:58 PM »
Change the damn wording then. Though you've been the biggest opponent of the military in the entire history of Atlasia so it's not a surprise at all.

Amendment:

Correcting Past Mistakes Bill

1. All instances of "United States" in F.L. 8-8 and F.L. 8-13 shall be replaced by "Atlasia" or "Atlasian" as appropriate.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2008, 01:12:59 PM »
Quote from: Jake on January 21, 2008, 12:49:58 PM
Change the damn wording then. Though you've been the biggest opponent of the military in the entire history of Atlasia so it's not a surprise at all.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 10:14:06 PM »
As the original sponsor of the Military Enlargement Act (IIRC), I think it would be terrible to waste an extra battalion of rangers.  I urge all Senators to vote against this act.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 10:34:59 PM »
I agree with Jake. As far as efficient military spending goes, this is about the best demo of it I can find. I support jakes amendment on the grounds that this bill is a great showing for our military and fiscal responsibility.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2008, 09:39:30 AM »
I'm more than happy with Jakes amendment. I put this forward not because of any funding issue; I was simply raising an important point on the wording that still exists in old (and even not so old) bills. I even, IIRC made that point on the legislation introduction thread. I would hope Senators would consider this before jumping down my throat Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 11:31:54 AM »
Then why repeal such bills rather then replace them. And why did you not include F.L. 8-8? Or F.L. 6.2? Or F.L. 3.6?

Include the two additional above acts in the amendment please Verily.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 01:23:58 PM »
Quote from: Jake on January 23, 2008, 11:31:54 AM
Then why repeal such bills rather then replace them.

It's done the job - it's highlighted the situation and legislation is now being drafted to amend it. Legally speaking we effectively were legislating for another country anyway - the bill did not, and has not had any effect on our armed forces because it wasn't referring to our armed forces to begin with. Nothing would have been gained or lost through this bill as a result.

That's why I've been slightly aggreived at the reception it has received (and a bit of jumping the gun on your part Jake) but pleased with the amendment.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 02:44:51 PM »
I support the original version of this bill.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 03:03:07 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2008, 03:44:19 PM by Verily »
We are now voting on the following amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

Quote from: Jake on January 21, 2008, 12:49:58 PM
Amendment:

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1. All instances of "United States" in F.L. 3-6, F.L. 6-2, F.L. 8-8 and F.L. 8-13 shall be replaced by "Atlasia" or "Atlasian" as appropriate.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2008, 03:33:34 PM »
Verily, could you add F.L. 6-2 and F.L. 3-6 to the amendment as requested above? Sorry I didn't make it more obvious.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 03:44:30 PM »
Quote from: Jake on January 26, 2008, 03:33:34 PM
Verily, could you add F.L. 6-2 and F.L. 3-6 to the amendment as requested above? Sorry I didn't make it more obvious.

Sure, it's done.
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2008, 03:44:59 PM »
Thanks

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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2008, 11:13:30 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2008, 11:48:02 PM »
Nay
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2008, 02:55:56 PM »
yes
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2008, 05:46:12 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2008, 06:09:45 PM »
Aye.
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2008, 07:10:00 PM »
Aye


Result on Jake's Amendment
Aye: 6 (Jake; Speed of Sound; Sam Spade; Bacon King; Moderate; Verily)
Nay: 1 (Ebowed)
Abstain [Didn't vote]: 3 (Afleitch; Friz; Sensei)

With six in favor,  the amendment passes.
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2008, 12:58:15 PM »
Just a reminder that debate on this legislation is still open. If there are no further objections, I will move for a final vote within forty-eight hours.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2008, 05:58:50 PM »
aye ftr
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2008, 01:12:49 PM »
I let this slip down a bit further than I meant to... anyway. As debate has ceased, I will move for a final vote.


We are now voting on the final passage of the following legislation. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


Correcting Past Mistakes Bill

1. All instances of "United States" in F.L. 3-6, F.L. 6-2, F.L. 8-8 and F.L. 8-13 shall be replaced by "Atlasia" or "Atlasian" as appropriate.


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