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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2008, 12:50:20 pm »
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Looks like it's not happening this time either.  In fact, I guess this would be the first presidential election since 1972 in which neither ticket includes a southerner....assuming you don't count Maryland (or Delaware, since, as Joe Biden reminds us, it "was a slave state").

Actually, if you *do* count Maryland as the South, but not Delaware, then this is the first election without a southerner on either ticket since....what?  1944?
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2008, 01:00:45 pm »
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Looks like it's not happening this time either.  In fact, I guess this would be the first presidential election since 1972 in which neither ticket includes a southerner....assuming you don't count Maryland (or Delaware, since, as Joe Biden reminds us, it "was a slave state").

Actually, if you *do* count Maryland as the South, but not Delaware, then this is the first election without a southerner on either ticket since....what?  1944?


I'd say 1940, because by that logic, Missouri is just as much a Southern state as Delaware or Maryland.
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2012, 02:53:02 am »
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Didn't happen in 2012 either.  Another GOP ticket with two Yankees.
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2012, 07:29:18 am »
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Didn't happen in 2012 either.  Another GOP ticket with two Yankees.

It's sort of nice that "Yankee" may be used not only in the original sense of New England WASP and the modern internationally accepted sense of American Citizen - that there are also a number of hazily-defined intermediate usages that have their historical reasons. It renders so many sentences featuring the term lovely, meaningless and postmodern.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2012, 09:45:43 am »
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Andrew Johnson (Democrat, but he was on a Republican ticket)
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2012, 05:08:48 pm »
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Fremont was born in Georgia, if birth states count.
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2012, 06:01:00 pm »
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1864 was the Union Party, not the Republican Party.  Also the epithet GOP dates to 1884.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2012, 06:29:13 pm »
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Interesting that it hasn't happened. Perhaps such states went from solidly Democratic to the base of the GOP, making it unnecessary to pander to them. Texans (I believe) were all from big political families.

BTW, this is the first GOP ticket of 2 non-Protestants since when?
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2012, 06:41:06 pm »
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BTW, this is the first GOP ticket of 2 non-Protestants since when?

Never. 

If you say Maryland is southern, you had Agnew in 1968 and 1972.  It was far more of a "southern" state at that time.

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2012, 06:42:30 pm »
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Looks like it's not happening this time either.  In fact, I guess this would be the first presidential election since 1972 in which neither ticket includes a southerner....assuming you don't count Maryland (or Delaware, since, as Joe Biden reminds us, it "was a slave state").

Actually, if you *do* count Maryland as the South, but not Delaware, then this is the first election without a southerner on either ticket since....what?  1944?


I don't consider Arizona 'the South', so 2008 didn't have any Southerners either.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2012, 12:19:10 am »
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Looks like it's not happening this time either.  In fact, I guess this would be the first presidential election since 1972 in which neither ticket includes a southerner....assuming you don't count Maryland (or Delaware, since, as Joe Biden reminds us, it "was a slave state").

Actually, if you *do* count Maryland as the South, but not Delaware, then this is the first election without a southerner on either ticket since....what?  1944?


I don't consider Arizona 'the South', so 2008 didn't have any Southerners either.

I wrote that in 2008, so "this election" obviously referred to the 2008 election.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2012, 12:53:49 am »
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Is Indiana the South?


No, but it acts like it is part of it
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2012, 06:51:23 pm »
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The correct answer is: Spiro Agnew.

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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2012, 06:58:27 pm »
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Maryland is barely Southern.
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2012, 01:04:03 am »
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Looks like it's not happening this time either.  In fact, I guess this would be the first presidential election since 1972 in which neither ticket includes a southerner....assuming you don't count Maryland (or Delaware, since, as Joe Biden reminds us, it "was a slave state").

Actually, if you *do* count Maryland as the South, but not Delaware, then this is the first election without a southerner on either ticket since....what?  1944?


I don't consider Arizona 'the South', so 2008 didn't have any Southerners either.

I wrote that in 2008, so "this election" obviously referred to the 2008 election.


Oh! Sorry, I didn't see that. Tough with resurrected threads sometimes.
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2012, 06:36:14 pm »
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Maybe Agnew, but I don't think so from the former Confederacy.
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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2012, 12:29:35 am »
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Maybe Agnew, but I don't think so from the former Confederacy.

If the South had won the war, instead of a West Virginia, there might well have been a division of Maryland, with the Eastern Shore joining the Confederacy as East Maryland.  Indeed, there had been proposals before the Civil War to have the Eastern and Western Shores become separate states or have the Eastern Shores of Maryland and Virginia join Delaware as a single State encompassing the whole Delmarva Peninsula (tho not by that name as it didn't come into use until the early 20th century.
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2012, 11:36:08 pm »
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What the heck is a non-Texan Southerner? Is that like a non-Alabaman Yankee?
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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2012, 01:00:41 pm »
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What the heck is a non-Texan Southerner? Is that like a non-Alabaman Yankee?

It's someone from a southern state other than Texas. Reading comprehension! Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2012, 01:02:22 pm »
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I don't know where people get this idea that Texas is somehow a Southern state.
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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2012, 01:07:28 pm »
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It depends on the part of Texas. East Texas from Texarkana down through Tyler and Marshall to Port Arthur and Beaumont, for instance, is obviously Southern culturally, whereas Midland and Odessa and Lubbock are about as Western as you can get.

Those Texas Republicans who have been nominated for Vice President and President, however, have not been associated with the parts of Texas that most people would consider Southern, unless you count the part of Houston that H.W. represented in the House.

I wouldn't consider the part of Maryland that Spiro Agnew was from remotely Southern either.
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« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2012, 02:18:24 pm »
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As a part of the Confederacy, Texas fits very vell into "Southern states" category. If only historically.
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« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2012, 04:03:16 pm »
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No, but Democrats have nominated many, as well as a few Southerners from Texas.
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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2012, 03:20:29 am »
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Does the GOP have relevent non-Texan southerners to nominate?
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Not this year either.
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