Do You Agree with this Statement?

[Robespierre's Jaw]

When people see John F. Kennedy they see what they want to be, whilst when they see Richard Nixon they see what they are.

Discuss.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I would agree.  I certainly would much rather be JFK, but I know that, politically, I am Richard Nixon.  Actually, I'm maybe closer to LBJ, but that's beside the point.  On the whole, this statement is accurate, and sad.

[Colin]

I kind of have to agree. The person who I am is quite close to Nixon, angry all the time, curmudgeonly, swear alot, hate people for no apparent reason, so that part of the equation is true.

As for the part about wanting to be Kennedy, well if someone made me a good looking heir apparent to one of the richest families in America who has the chops to hop in bed with the likes of Marilyn Monroe what do you think my answer is going to be?

[Хahar 🤔]

I would agree.  I certainly would much rather be JFK, but I know that, politically, I am Richard Nixon.  Actually, I'm maybe closer to LBJ, but that's beside the point.  On the whole, this statement is accurate, and sad.

Much of that is true for me. If I ever go into politics, I might well get caught breaking and entering. Actually though, I see more of what I want to be in Bobby Kennedy than in Jack Kennedy.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Agree 100% If I could have a different father to what JFK had.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I like to think that most people aren't anything like Nixon actually...

[Sensei]

If everyone was like Richard Nixon, the world would be a way worse place.

[Keystone Phil]

I like to think that most people aren't anything like Nixon actually...

Intead, they should aspire to be a lying, unfaithful, cheat like our wonderful President Kennedy. 

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

[True Democrat]

I like to think that most people aren't anything like Nixon actually...

Intead, they should aspire to be a lying, unfaithful, cheat like our wonderful President Kennedy. 

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Maybe if it ever comes true.

[opebo]

Most of us are nothing like either of these elite members. 

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Intead, they should aspire to be a lying, unfaithful, cheat like our wonderful President Kennedy. 

I made no mention of the oh so glorious St Kennedy of Brookline.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

[NDN]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

[Keystone Phil]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

[jokerman]

I like to think that most people aren't anything like Nixon actually...

Indeed. 

[Ban my account ffs!]

I kind of have to agree. The person who I am is quite close to Nixon, angry all the time, curmudgeonly, swear alot, hate people for no apparent reason, so that part of the equation is true.

As for the part about wanting to be Kennedy, well if someone made me a good looking heir apparent to one of the richest families in America who has the chops to hop in bed with the likes of Marilyn Monroe what do you think my answer is going to be?

You know, it's funny that you say that, because you come off as being generally quite agreeable and friendly on the forum while I come off as curmudgeonly and hateful when I'm actually genuinely friendly in real life.

I think I actually end up being more like Jimmy Carter without the Evangelic Christianity.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

Kennedy didn't bomb Cambodia or overthrow Allende.

Next!

[Bono]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

Kennedy didn't bomb Cambodia or overthrow Allende.

Next!

Granting invention is permissible, which is certainly something Kennedy agreed with, I don't see the problem in saving a country from communism. Allende was the Chavez of his day.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Bit like the old Commie defense of Stalinism really. Can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs and so on. People aren't eggs though. In any case, Allende and his followers would have been voted out at the next election.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Bit like the old Commie defense of Stalinism really. Can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs and so on. People aren't eggs though. In any case, Allende and his followers would have been voted out at the next election.

Exactly. Chile had at the time one of the strongest and most established parliamentary systems in Latin America - Allende had been in power for 3 years and approaching the end of his term and re-election (which he would have lost; his popularity went down the tubes after election). To support such a military action against him renders talk of "democracy" hypocritical at best.

Btw Bono, do you support the murder of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Schneider

[Colin]

I kind of have to agree. The person who I am is quite close to Nixon, angry all the time, curmudgeonly, swear alot, hate people for no apparent reason, so that part of the equation is true.

As for the part about wanting to be Kennedy, well if someone made me a good looking heir apparent to one of the richest families in America who has the chops to hop in bed with the likes of Marilyn Monroe what do you think my answer is going to be?

You know, it's funny that you say that, because you come off as being generally quite agreeable and friendly on the forum while I come off as curmudgeonly and hateful when I'm actually genuinely friendly in real life.

Well I probably am it's just I happen to love giving myself a hard time. Low self-esteem I guess.

[Keystone Phil]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

Kennedy didn't bomb Cambodia or overthrow Allende.

Next!

He did oversee that ever so successful mission in the Bay of Pigs.

Next.

[NDN]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

I'll be the first to say that Kennedy was not the saint that Democrats and naive Liberals in particular make him out to be. He was a sickly drug addicted, womanizing, friend of Joe McCarthy who won due in large part to the corrupt machines in cities like Chicago. But the scale of the Nixon administration's illegal activities and general ruthlessness makes him look like a choir boy.

Also Ted Kennedy needs to be voted out of office. Badly.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

Kennedy didn't bomb Cambodia or overthrow Allende.

Next!

He did oversee that ever so successful mission in the Bay of Pigs.

Next.

How is the bay of pigs comparable to the hundreds of thousands deaths in Cambodia or installing a dictatorship in Latin America. I don't Understand...

[Keystone Phil]

When will people realize that these beloved Kennedy's did just as much bad as Nixon did?

Why should they believe something that isn't true?

The sinister political animal known as the Kennedy family was much worse than Nixon. Nobody cares to recognize that, though, because the Kennedy's are such a glorious bunch. 

Kennedy didn't bomb Cambodia or overthrow Allende.

Next!

He did oversee that ever so successful mission in the Bay of Pigs.

Next.

How is the bay of pigs comparable to the hundreds of thousands deaths in Cambodia or installing a dictatorship in Latin America. I don't Understand...

I assumed you were talking about general foreign policy "mistakes."