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bullmoose88
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« on: January 27, 2008, 03:44:50 PM »

I think that the Torah is a corrupted version of the word of Allah, so the only parts that can be taken as fact are those that are expressly corroborated in the Qur’ān, which is about a quarter based on my completely random guess.

So, what is your faith's view on the people of the book?

Do we end up in hell (I can't remember what its called in Islam, something J-- but too close spelling wise to heaven for me to try and spell)? Temporary punishment? Permanent?  You can answer in another thread if you'd like

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 03:47:08 PM »

I think that the Torah is a corrupted version of the word of Allah, so the only parts that can be taken as fact are those that are expressly corroborated in the Qur’ān, which is about a quarter based on my completely random guess.

So, what is your faith's view on the people of the book?

Do we end up in hell (I can't remember what its called in Islam, something J-- but too close spelling wise to heaven for me to try and spell)? Temporary punishment? Permanent?  You can answer in another thread if you'd like

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Bullmoose-are you Jewish?

No, protestant...
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 03:53:10 PM »

Why do you ask?
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 03:58:41 PM »

You said "we" when referring to the People of the Book, who are Jews.

If I recall correctly (and I may not since I am not a Muslim) but islam considers both christians and jews to be the people of the book...ie those using the incomplete revelations of Allah
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 04:05:50 PM »


I guess i'll pose a question for you...and its something I can't get a clear uniform answer from my jewish friends...the answers are so different I wonder if they all share the same faith...

But is there a heaven and a hell in judaism? if so...what exactly are they like?
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 04:17:17 PM »

Judaism belives that everyone's soul will spend eternity with God, so no, there is no Heaven and Hell per se, because everyone spends eternity in a heaven like place.

I've heard this explanation before...i guess I don't understand it...why would He have a chosen people...and why wouldHe allow vile souls (i'm not talking about debatable ones, I'm talking about the most vile people in human history) to have the same outcome?
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 12:31:46 PM »

Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham are quite real.  They did not live to the age as given in Genesis,

you were around to witness the length of their lifespans?  wow, you must be really old

Abraham did not live to be 175, Isaac to 137, and Jacob at 147.

Our years? Probably...then again, you're technically speculating (extrapolating backwards from a modern trend)
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