Is Bayh a socialist far leftist?

[WalterMitty]

no.

evan bayh is simply an empty suit making a career on a famous name.  he tailored his views to get elected (and stay elected) in a conservative state.

if he runs for president, im sure we will see a more liberal evan bayh.

[Lunar]

You would think that someone who is fascist would actually know what fascism is.

Oh, Thomas Jefferson is a fascist? No, sorry—pure democracy is quite plainly fascist.

Here's the simple Dictionary.com definitions of fascism (your previous definition for 'fascist' refers to a person):

   1. often Fascism
         1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
         2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
   2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

While you may argue that pure democracy is "opressive," clearly power is NOT centralized or under dictatorial control.  Just because something may be "bad" doesn't make it fascist.

[A18]

I was talking about fascist judges, so I posted the adjective form.

Pure democracy gives full control of everything to the majority. I am obviously using the term quite loosely, but that doesn't make it wrong.

[Lunar]

Pure democracy gives full control of everything to the majority. I am obviously using the term quite loosely, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Yeah it does.  How is pure democracy centralized or autocratic?

[J.R. Brown]

I was talking about fascist judges, so I posted the adjective form.

Pure democracy gives full control of everything to the majority. I am obviously using the term quite loosely, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Pure democracy gives control to the people. Direct control of the government.

[A18]

Pure democracy gives full control of everything to the majority. I am obviously using the term quite loosely, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Yeah it does.  How is pure democracy centralized or autocratic?

Because there are no checks and no balances—the power of the majority is infinite and unrestrained.

I look at the majority as a single entity.

[A18]

Pure democracy gives control to the people.

Not all of them. Just the majority.

[J.R. Brown]

Pure democracy gives control to the people.

Not all of them. Just the majority.

What form of government doesn't give control to the majority? You can't tell me that fascism gives control to all of the people. I guess a state in which there was complete anarchy would give power to every individual.

[Lunar]

Pure democracy gives full control of everything to the majority. I am obviously using the term quite loosely, but that doesn't make it wrong.

Yeah it does.  How is pure democracy centralized or autocratic?

Because there are no checks and no balances—the power of the majority is infinite and unrestrained.

I look at the majority as a single entity.

How the heck can you interpret the majority as a single entity?  Is it not shifting from issue to issue, from second to second?  Power in a pure democracy is diluted and transfered to every citizen, not just the majority.  Sometimes a citizen will be a "winner" with a policy, sometimes a "loser."

I'm not a fan of pure democracy, I just can't see how it could be interpreted as a dictatorship or an autocracy.

[A18]

The point is you will always be pinned to each standard of the majority.

[Lunar]

The point is you will always be pinned to each standard of the majority.

Huh?  Yes, the system results in the majority's decision, that doesn't prove poopy.  How is this fascism?  How is this centralized or autocratic? 

[A18]

Because majority opinion controls everything.

[Lunar]

Because majority opinion controls everything.

But there is no static majority opinion!  Remember that post a few seconds ago?  Something can't be centralized if power is completely decentralized to every individual!  Every individual, including the minority has power because there is no such thing as a permanent minority.

[A18]

That is anarchy, not democracy.

There's no such thing as a permanent dictator.

[PADem]

Philip thinks everyone to the right of Santorum is a socialist far lefist.

Yeah....good one. You have a way with words, PADem. 

Oops.... I meant left.....   ..... You got me on that one...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

so far, not a single person besides Philip has voted that they think so.

[phk]

LOL