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Senator Ben
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #25 on:
January 27, 2008, 10:22:10 pm »
Quote from: bullmoose88 on January 27, 2008, 10:20:40 pm
Quote from: Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08 on January 27, 2008, 10:16:19 pm
We take these requirements literally, word for word.
Which is interesting that you'd take such a strict standard with that, yet take many elements in the torah as allegory
Orthodox Jews take the entire Torah literally, although they may consider some details differently. For example, I don't think they believe the world was created in 6 24 hour days.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
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ottermax
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #26 on:
February 06, 2008, 07:51:44 pm »
Judaism is usually viewed as a race by many Orthodox Jews, rather than a religion. It it not evangelical, and Judaism is not supposed to be a religion people join. Although conversion is permitted, it is not promoted. Reform Jews believe it is more of a religion, but still it is not evangelical, but rather the literal idea of a Jew is not as precise.
For example if child A has a Jewish mother and a Christian father, but is raised as a Christian, then an Orthodox Jew would tend to consider child A a Jew, even though child A believes in Christianity because a Jew cannot lose their identity. However a Reform Jew will tend to believe that child A is a Christian.
If child B has a Christian mother and a Jewish father, and is raised as a Jew, then that child is considered Jewish by Reform Jews, but not a Jew in the Orthodox community because child B is not born of maternal Jewish heritage.
(i'm child B, so I'm Reform...)
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Senator Ben
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #27 on:
February 06, 2008, 08:43:02 pm »
Quote from: ottermax on February 06, 2008, 07:51:44 pm
Judaism is usually viewed as a race by many Orthodox Jews, rather than a religion. It it not evangelical, and Judaism is not supposed to be a religion people join. Although conversion is permitted, it is not promoted. Reform Jews believe it is more of a religion, but still it is not evangelical, but rather the literal idea of a Jew is not as precise.
For example if child A has a Jewish mother and a Christian father, but is raised as a Christian, then an Orthodox Jew would tend to consider child A a Jew, even though child A believes in Christianity because a Jew cannot lose their identity. However a Reform Jew will tend to believe that child A is a Christian.
If child B has a Christian mother and a Jewish father, and is raised as a Jew, then that child is considered Jewish by Reform Jews, but not a Jew in the Orthodox community because child B is not born of maternal Jewish heritage.
(i'm child B, so I'm Reform...)
I'm a Reform Jew, though both of my parents are Jews, and my mother was raised as a Conservative Jew.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
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Secretary Polnut
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #28 on:
February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm »
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
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The Mikado
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #29 on:
February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 pm »
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
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Secretary Polnut
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #30 on:
February 06, 2008, 10:38:53 pm »
Quote from: The Mikado on February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
I know, but it still gets used around the family.
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Χahar
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #31 on:
February 07, 2008, 10:12:58 pm »
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:38:53 pm
Quote from: The Mikado on February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
I know, but it still gets used around the family.
Interesting. I felt like I was reading
Mein Kampf
.
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I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Willy Woz
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #32 on:
February 07, 2008, 10:58:37 pm »
Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #33 on:
February 07, 2008, 11:19:24 pm »
Quote from: Führer und Reichskanzler on February 07, 2008, 10:12:58 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:38:53 pm
Quote from: The Mikado on February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
I know, but it still gets used around the family.
Interesting. I felt like I was reading
Mein Kampf
.
I really think that you have to be looking to be offended to have assumed that.
Maybe if it was some stranger, but I think PolNut's mistake was honest.
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Χahar
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #34 on:
February 07, 2008, 11:22:28 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on February 07, 2008, 11:19:24 pm
Quote from: Führer und Reichskanzler on February 07, 2008, 10:12:58 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:38:53 pm
Quote from: The Mikado on February 06, 2008, 10:35:24 pm
Quote from: Fmr Gov. Polnut on February 06, 2008, 10:15:10 pm
I have had a lot of contact with jews and jewish culture, I've always enjoyed it.
My grandmother is a bloodline jewess, but she was raised a lutheran and converted to Catholism.
I like the intellectual side of it, which is sorely lacking in Christianity. But I love ham/bacon/prescuito and seafood... and especially dislike the idea of a scalpel. So no deal.
Just FYI, the word Jewess is no longer in general usage.
I know, but it still gets used around the family.
Interesting. I felt like I was reading
Mein Kampf
.
I really think that you have to be looking to be offended to have assumed that.
Maybe if it was some stranger, but I think PolNut's mistake was honest.
Unfortunately, nobody notices when I exaggerate for humorous effect.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
Grad Students are the Worst
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #35 on:
February 07, 2008, 11:22:55 pm »
Oh, sorry
Long day.
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Χahar
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #36 on:
February 07, 2008, 11:44:41 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on February 07, 2008, 11:22:55 pm
Oh, sorry
Long day.
I know what you mean.
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Quote from: Sibboleth on February 28, 2009, 04:08:37 pm
I'm not sure if this new tendency to appeal to the apparent inherent evil of Xahar in all things even remotely related to forum policing or this damn game is especially helpful.
The Mikado
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #37 on:
February 08, 2008, 12:01:20 am »
Quote from: 1844 on February 07, 2008, 10:58:37 pm
Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?
More stringent than Reform, less than Orthodox.
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memphis
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #38 on:
February 08, 2008, 12:27:26 am »
Quote from: The Mikado on February 08, 2008, 12:01:20 am
Quote from: 1844 on February 07, 2008, 10:58:37 pm
Yes, I have a question. What precisely is Conservative Judaism?
More stringent than Reform, less than Orthodox.
This Judaism's
just
right! (I was raised Conservative)
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Secretary Polnut
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #39 on:
February 08, 2008, 12:44:09 am »
BTW - My grandmother... before she started to forget who she was, always referred to herself as a former jewess.
But when I'm with my jewish friends I don't tend to use that word.
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Senator Ben
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #40 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 pm »
I feel like bumping this thread.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Grad Students are the Worst
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #41 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:14:44 pm »
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 pm
I feel like bumping this thread.
Good. My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months. I now strongly support banning gefilte fish. Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.
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Senator Ben
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #42 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:14:44 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 pm
I feel like bumping this thread.
Good. My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months. I now strongly support banning gefilte fish. Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.
Why has your opninion cratered? I agree about the fish, btw.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Grad Students are the Worst
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #43 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:40:43 pm »
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 pm
Why has your opninion cratered?
I have a complex mathematical algorithm. It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.
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Senator Ben
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #44 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:43:27 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:40:43 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 pm
Why has your opninion cratered?
I have a complex mathematical algorithm. It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.
Interesting.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
Grad Students are the Worst
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #45 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:44:32 pm »
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:43:27 pm
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:40:43 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 pm
Why has your opninion cratered?
I have a complex mathematical algorithm. It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.
Interesting.
I'll admit that I still haven't figured out how to work in the Sammy Davis, Jr., effect. For obvious reasons, that throws the whole thing out of whack.
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Senator Ben
benconstine
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #46 on:
August 11, 2008, 08:47:10 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:44:32 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:43:27 pm
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:40:43 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:19:21 pm
Why has your opninion cratered?
I have a complex mathematical algorithm. It takes my current opinion of Lorne Michaels, subtracts what I'll call the "Wolf Blitzer Index," and divides that by the number of times my dad has used conversational Yiddish incorrectly this month.
Interesting.
I'll admit that I still haven't figured out how to work in the Sammy Davis, Jr., effect. For obvious reasons, that throws the whole thing out of whack.
Indeed. Don't forget Mel Brooks and Larry David.
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Quote from: The Mikado on March 18, 2011, 11:12:39 pm
Obama High's debate team:
"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear. I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments. Let me be clear on this."
??????????
StatesRights
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #47 on:
August 12, 2008, 12:53:12 pm »
Positive overall. But I still personally think they missed the proverbial boat.
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Verily
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Re: Judaism
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Reply #48 on:
August 12, 2008, 01:07:01 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:14:44 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 pm
I feel like bumping this thread.
Good. My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months. I now strongly support banning gefilte fish. Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.
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Re: Judaism
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August 12, 2008, 01:50:35 pm »
Quote from: Verily on August 12, 2008, 01:07:01 pm
Quote from: Alcon on August 11, 2008, 08:14:44 pm
Quote from: Warner for Senate '08 on August 11, 2008, 08:03:22 pm
I feel like bumping this thread.
Good. My opinion of Judaism has cratered in six months. I now strongly support banning gefilte fish. Since I don't know what that looks like, I'm just going to go ahead and ban all fish.
That's the most angular fish I've ever seen! It's an abomination.
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